46Dover Posted November 1, 2023 Share #3526 Posted November 1, 2023 51 minutes ago, Kingsbridgeviewer382 said: 7157 has always been a Wayne unit. Meadowlands has 7167-7168, 7171-7172, 7175, 7177-7178. I’m assuming those are lav buses 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpn4179 Posted November 1, 2023 Share #3527 Posted November 1, 2023 Here's a list of the new gate assignments for Lakeland and NJ Transit. Per Lakeland Bus website: https://www.lakelandbus.com ALL WESTBOUND DEPARTURES HAVE BEEN RELOCATED TO THE LOWER LEVEL (BASEMENT) OF PORT AUTHORITY BUS TERMINAL. CHANGES ARE AS FOLLOWS: GATE #8 Route 46 to Dover Local (Boonton) Fairfield – Pinebrook – Parsippany – Boonton – Mt. Lakes – Denville – Rockaway – Dover Gate #10 Route 46 to Dover EXPRESS Fairfield- Pinebrook-Parsippany- Mt.Lakes – Denville- Rockaway-Dover – Rockaway Mall -Howard Boulevard Gate #12 Route 80 to Sparta: Peak Hours (5:20 & 6PM) Rockaway Mall – Blue heron Park and Ride – Lake Mohawk – Sparta Park and Ride Gate #14 Route 80 to Newton/ Express to Rockaway Mall & Howard Boulevard Rockaway Mall – Howard Boulevard Park and Ride – Landing – Netcong – Stanhope – Andover – Newton Gate #16 Route 78 to Bernardsville (Local) Summit – New Providence – Berkeley Heights – Lyons – Basking Ridge – Bernardsville Gate #20 Route 78 to Bernardsville (Express) Warren Park and Ride – Lyons – Basking Ridge – Bernardsville All changes went into effect October 2. Per Port Authority website: https://www.panynj.gov/bus-terminals/en/port-authority/nj-transit-gate-changes.html As of October 28, 2023, several NJ Transit routes have been relocated to new gates at the Midtown Bus Terminal, to improve accessibility and service to bus customers. See below for the list of affected routes and their new gate assignments.* *NOTE: There will be no changes to late night/early morning gate assignments between 1:01AM and 5:59AM. For additional information and language assistance, please contact NJ Transit Customer Service at (973) 275-5555 between the hours of 8:30AM and 5PM daily or visit the NJ Transit website: www.njtransit.com. NJ Transit Weekdays Weekdays Weekdays Weekday & Weekends Saturday & Sunday Bus Route Number 6AM-3:29PM 3:30PM-7:30PM 7:31PM-10PM 10:01PM-1AM 6AM-10PM 101 N/A 315 315 N/A N/A 105 N/A 315 315 N/A N/A 107L 307 307 307 306 307 107X 306 306 306 306 306 108 308 308 308 306 308 112 207 207 207 317 207 115 223 207 207 316 223 116 207 207 207 317 207 122 206 206 N/A N/A N/A 124 206 N/A 206 320 N/A 127 205 205 205 313 205 129 206 206 206 320 206 144 224 313 N/A N/A N/A 153 N/A 204 N/A N/A N/A 154 204 204 204 304 204 155 N/A 221 N/A N/A N/A 157 N/A 221 N/A N/A N/A 160 224 55 312 312 224 163T 224 224 224 312 224 163P N/A 313 N/A N/A N/A 168T N/A 221 221 N/A N/A 190 232 232 232 310 232 194 233 303 233 307 233 197 233 233 233 307 233 198 233 233 233 307 233 320 314 314 314 314 314 With these new assignments, the following carriers are at the following gates: 400 Gates: Coach USA (Community Coach, Rockland Coaches, Olympia Trails, Short Line, Suburban Trails) 300 Gates: NJ Transit 200 Gates: NJ Transit 60-85 Gates: Greyhound, Peter Pan (NJ Transit during the late night hours when South Wing is closed) 51-56 Gates: NJ Transit, Community Lines and Spanish Transportation (Jitney buses) 1-34 Gates: Trailways (Adirondack, Fullington, Martz), Academy, C&J, Lakeland, OurBus (Commuter Routes, Coach, Prime), Trans-Bridge 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCTransitFilms Posted November 1, 2023 Share #3528 Posted November 1, 2023 5 hours ago, Kingsbridgeviewer382 said: 7157 has always been a Wayne unit. Meadowlands has 7167-7168, 7171-7172, 7175, 7177-7178. most are retired now. Saw 7167, 7168, 7171, 7175, and 7178 at the scrap lot at Meadowlands. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46Dover Posted November 6, 2023 Share #3529 Posted November 6, 2023 Surreal to see a NABI get the black paint at Meadowlands 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
553 Bridgeton Posted November 7, 2023 Share #3530 Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, 46Dover said: Surreal to see a NABI get the black paint at Meadowlands 500 of them are to get rehabbed and the rest replaced by new flyers more then likely. 5201(donated)is already gone, but it seems 5202-5699 will be goners, and getting those Nabis back from the privates started that early, Edited November 7, 2023 by 553 Bridgeton 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCTransitFilms Posted November 7, 2023 Share #3531 Posted November 7, 2023 Apparently NJT will be getting 200 articulated buses alongside the 550 40-ft buses. This is what I saw on Facebook earlier: --------------------- 2311-77 BUS STOCK PROGRAM: PURCHASE OF 550 40-FOOT AND 200 60-FOOT ARTICULATED BUSES – Authorization to purchase 550 40-foot and 200 60-foot Transit Buses, including capital spare parts, at a cost not to exceed $685,957,704.70, plus 10 percent for contingencies, subject to the availability of funds. --------------------- In the detailed agenda, it's stated these will be the last diesel buses purchased by NJT. The included option is up to 750 additional 40-footers (1300 total in this contract) and up to 550 more artics (750 total). Ironically, there is no mention of the manufacturer, but New Flyer was the only bidder, so we're looking at a fleet of XD40s and XD60s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted November 7, 2023 Share #3532 Posted November 7, 2023 2 hours ago, DCTransitFilms said: Apparently NJT will be getting 200 articulated buses alongside the 550 40-ft buses. This is what I saw on Facebook earlier: --------------------- 2311-77 BUS STOCK PROGRAM: PURCHASE OF 550 40-FOOT AND 200 60-FOOT ARTICULATED BUSES – Authorization to purchase 550 40-foot and 200 60-foot Transit Buses, including capital spare parts, at a cost not to exceed $685,957,704.70, plus 10 percent for contingencies, subject to the availability of funds. --------------------- In the detailed agenda, it's stated these will be the last diesel buses purchased by NJT. The included option is up to 750 additional 40-footers (1300 total in this contract) and up to 550 more artics (750 total). Ironically, there is no mention of the manufacturer, but New Flyer was the only bidder, so we're looking at a fleet of XD40s and XD60s. And where exactly are they going to put all these 200 XD60's?? LMAO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go25 Posted November 7, 2023 Share #3533 Posted November 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Lawrence St said: And where exactly are they going to put all these 200 XD60's?? LMAO. Hilton might become a full artic bus garage? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCTransitFilms Posted November 7, 2023 Share #3534 Posted November 7, 2023 5 hours ago, Lawrence St said: And where exactly are they going to put all these 200 XD60's?? LMAO. 2 hours ago, go25 said: Hilton might become a full artic bus garage? Other than the future Ridgefield Park and Union City garages opening, I'm not sure what's NJT's plans for these artics. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jass Posted November 7, 2023 Share #3535 Posted November 7, 2023 Are the idiots continuing to buy 2 door articulated models? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go25 Posted November 7, 2023 Share #3536 Posted November 7, 2023 32 minutes ago, jass said: Are the idiots continuing to buy 2 door articulated models? More than likely 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNR Beacon Line Posted November 10, 2023 Share #3537 Posted November 10, 2023 On 11/7/2023 at 5:38 PM, jass said: Are the idiots continuing to buy 2 door articulated models? I don’t even use the second door because the operators always forget to open it. It should be a self operating door like most agencies use. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted November 14, 2023 Share #3538 Posted November 14, 2023 Why did they stop running the Philly-Great Adventure bus in 2014? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridgeviewer382 Posted November 14, 2023 Share #3539 Posted November 14, 2023 https://www.facebook.com/100064719755169/posts/pfbid02zAsYVJYayyZswcxC2nm735Mvtjo8z5gX457mPEpee6L83bxrGwNwPoEREAe4fDVkl/?mibextid=CDWPTG NJ Transit is giving some of their current fleet a retro look. Not sure how long it will last, but it's something to be on the lookout for. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46Dover Posted November 15, 2023 Share #3540 Posted November 15, 2023 7 hours ago, Kingsbridgeviewer382 said: https://www.facebook.com/100064719755169/posts/pfbid02zAsYVJYayyZswcxC2nm735Mvtjo8z5gX457mPEpee6L83bxrGwNwPoEREAe4fDVkl/?mibextid=CDWPTG NJ Transit is giving some of their current fleet a retro look. Not sure how long it will last, but it's something to be on the lookout for. Yeah I only saw that one so far 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCTransitFilms Posted November 15, 2023 Share #3541 Posted November 15, 2023 14 hours ago, Kingsbridgeviewer382 said: https://www.facebook.com/100064719755169/posts/pfbid02zAsYVJYayyZswcxC2nm735Mvtjo8z5gX457mPEpee6L83bxrGwNwPoEREAe4fDVkl/?mibextid=CDWPTG NJ Transit is giving some of their current fleet a retro look. Not sure how long it will last, but it's something to be on the lookout for. 7 hours ago, 46Dover said: Yeah I only saw that one so far Caught it the other day on the 1. It was repainted in September or October. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrow III Posted November 15, 2023 Share #3542 Posted November 15, 2023 1 hour ago, DCTransitFilms said: Caught it the other day on the 1. It was repainted in September or October. Looks nice, hopefully they'll be able to keep them looking clean 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go25 Posted November 15, 2023 Share #3543 Posted November 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Arrow III said: Looks nice, hopefully they'll be able to keep them looking clean It's already getting messed up lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jass Posted November 15, 2023 Share #3544 Posted November 15, 2023 22 hours ago, Lawrence St said: Why did they stop running the Philly-Great Adventure bus in 2014? Chris Christopher Christie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlxMtroD Posted November 15, 2023 Share #3545 Posted November 15, 2023 On 11/7/2023 at 12:12 PM, Lawrence St said: And where exactly are they going to put all these 200 XD60's?? LMAO. I believe the older Nabis they'll scrap will be kinda like a tradeoff for the new XD60s. For example, Meadowlands current Nabi suburbans may all be replaced by XD60s. Most of not some of Hilton's older Nabi transit Model will be replaced by the XD60s so to have routes 1, 13, 25,39 and 70 to have a full dosage of XD60s during the entire day. Don't rule out seeing some XD60s on other routes that are normally 40 foot bus routes. If NJT could change the gate assignment at the PABT for the 107, then you could possibly have some artics run that route during the day as well. Fairview could have most of their Nabi suburbans replaced by new XD60s as well. I would like to see route 80 have artics on that line all day because the Westside Avenue and Society Hill area is just booming with higher ridership. Notice I didn't mention route 87, which they could use the artics too. Most of us know that route has many tight turns on side streets. Jersey City may have to adjust certain areas of the street scape for the 87 route to accompany artics. Of course Greenville is a small garage, I've been saying for years that NJ Transit should have invested in buying property or acres of land in Jersey City, in particular off route 440 to build a bigger garage. Jersey City's population is rising and will soon if not by next year overtake Newark into becoming the largest city population wise in New Jersey. With all these luxury condos and apartments being built and some New Yorkers moving into Jersey City, NJT needs to be ready of handling such large crowds on their bus lines and light rail 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted November 16, 2023 Share #3546 Posted November 16, 2023 6 hours ago, FlxMtroD said: I believe the older Nabis they'll scrap will be kinda like a tradeoff for the new XD60s. For example, Meadowlands current Nabi suburbans may all be replaced by XD60s. Most of not some of Hilton's older Nabi transit Model will be replaced by the XD60s so to have routes 1, 13, 25,39 and 70 to have a full dosage of XD60s during the entire day. Don't rule out seeing some XD60s on other routes that are normally 40 foot bus routes. If NJT could change the gate assignment at the PABT for the 107, then you could possibly have some artics run that route during the day as well. Fairview could have most of their Nabi suburbans replaced by new XD60s as well. I would like to see route 80 have artics on that line all day because the Westside Avenue and Society Hill area is just booming with higher ridership. Notice I didn't mention route 87, which they could use the artics too. Most of us know that route has many tight turns on side streets. Jersey City may have to adjust certain areas of the street scape for the 87 route to accompany artics. Of course Greenville is a small garage, I've been saying for years that NJ Transit should have invested in buying property or acres of land in Jersey City, in particular off route 440 to build a bigger garage. Jersey City's population is rising and will soon if not by next year overtake Newark into becoming the largest city population wise in New Jersey. With all these luxury condos and apartments being built and some New Yorkers moving into Jersey City, NJT needs to be ready of handling such large crowds on their bus lines and light rail I wonder if that could also mean the end of full service on all Fairview lines. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biGC323232 Posted November 16, 2023 Share #3547 Posted November 16, 2023 18 hours ago, FlxMtroD said: I believe the older Nabis they'll scrap will be kinda like a tradeoff for the new XD60s. For example, Meadowlands current Nabi suburbans may all be replaced by XD60s. Most of not some of Hilton's older Nabi transit Model will be replaced by the XD60s so to have routes 1, 13, 25,39 and 70 to have a full dosage of XD60s during the entire day. Don't rule out seeing some XD60s on other routes that are normally 40 foot bus routes. If NJT could change the gate assignment at the PABT for the 107, then you could possibly have some artics run that route during the day as well. Fairview could have most of their Nabi suburbans replaced by new XD60s as well. I would like to see route 80 have artics on that line all day because the Westside Avenue and Society Hill area is just booming with higher ridership. Notice I didn't mention route 87, which they could use the artics too. Most of us know that route has many tight turns on side streets. Jersey City may have to adjust certain areas of the street scape for the 87 route to accompany artics. Of course Greenville is a small garage, I've been saying for years that NJ Transit should have invested in buying property or acres of land in Jersey City, in particular off route 440 to build a bigger garage. Jersey City's population is rising and will soon if not by next year overtake Newark into becoming the largest city population wise in New Jersey. With all these luxury condos and apartments being built and some New Yorkers moving into Jersey City, NJT needs to be ready of handling such large crowds on their bus lines and light rail I agree with most of this...If the 1 use artics with its tight turns i think the 87 can manage....Only problem is that greenville cant house artics cause of they garage being to small....Yes Jersey City is rising in terms of ridership base...And its been quite amazing that transit somehow got the man power to take over JC Former Routes.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlxMtroD Posted November 16, 2023 Share #3548 Posted November 16, 2023 2 hours ago, biGC323232 said: I agree with most of this...If the 1 use artics with its tight turns i think the 87 can manage....Only problem is that greenville cant house artics cause of they garage being to small....Yes Jersey City is rising in terms of ridership base...And its been quite amazing that transit somehow got the man power to take over JC Former Routes.... Well, NJT seems to only add a few 80S runs to and from Society Hill. Remember, that route during peak period under A&C before COVID hit had at least 10 buses running that line during the weekday. Now it seems reduced I'm guessing to 4 to 5 buses. Bergen Ave is the same as well. Runs are reduced, therefore you might see six to eight buses during peak period. Weekends are a total different story. Route 9 Newport Mall only has one bus instead of two during the weekend is a prime example. I wish NJT would extend service hours on the 80 route until 1:45a in that area of Westside because the commuters coming from New York off Path. Now with the routes formerly operated by O.N.E we can see a vast reduction in routes 24 and certainly the 31 because I'm sure it's because of not having the man power. I could remember the 31 alone had close to 20 buses operating on S. Orange Ave. Now it's 10 or less 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlxMtroD Posted November 16, 2023 Share #3549 Posted November 16, 2023 3 hours ago, biGC323232 said: I agree with most of this...If the 1 use artics with its tight turns i think the 87 can manage....Only problem is that greenville cant house artics cause of they garage being to small....Yes Jersey City is rising in terms of ridership base...And its been quite amazing that transit somehow got the man power to take over JC Former Routes.... By the way, NJT may need to collaborate with the city of Jersey City to fix it's street patterns on certain intersections that are either narrow or tight turns if they want artics on that line. The 163 route which makes that 45 or so degree turn I want to say Paterson-Plank road, the town made sure to move the white line further back to allow 45 cruisers of making a clear turn. Before that new turn, it went up to the residential street to get to Boulevard. I guess there were many complaints made by the residents to have those cruisers stay on the main road than to enter there one-way street 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biGC323232 Posted November 16, 2023 Share #3550 Posted November 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, FlxMtroD said: Well, NJT seems to only add a few 80S runs to and from Society Hill. Remember, that route during peak period under A&C before COVID hit had at least 10 buses running that line during the weekday. Now it seems reduced I'm guessing to 4 to 5 buses. Bergen Ave is the same as well. Runs are reduced, therefore you might see six to eight buses during peak period. Weekends are a total different story. Route 9 Newport Mall only has one bus instead of two during the weekend is a prime example. I wish NJT would extend service hours on the 80 route until 1:45a in that area of Westside because the commuters coming from New York off Path. Now with the routes formerly operated by O.N.E we can see a vast reduction in routes 24 and certainly the 31 because I'm sure it's because of not having the man power. I could remember the 31 alone had close to 20 buses operating on S. Orange Ave. Now it's 10 or less 1 minute ago, FlxMtroD said: By the way, NJT may need to collaborate with the city of Jersey City to fix it's street patterns on certain intersections that are either narrow or tight turns if they want artics on that line. The 163 route which makes that 45 or so degree turn I want to say Paterson-Plank road, the town made sure to move the white line further back to allow 45 cruisers of making a clear turn. Before that new turn, it went up to the residential street to get to Boulevard. I guess there were many complaints made by the residents to have those cruisers stay on the main road than to enter there one-way street Yes i agree with most....The 9 should operate much better on weekdays and wkends...How they expect ridership to grow back on that line with headways like that....8 should run a little later than 7 and at least every 15 mins....i say midnight should be the last bus from jsq....80s i dont think gonna boost anything cause you still have the 80 on westside.....But yes before covid buses was clock work now u can walk faster than depending on where u going 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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