R188 Discussion Thread

[realizm]

Before getting to school to take care of further enrollment of classes and take care of financial aid issues the R188 showed up again @ 5th Ave. The consist only makes one round trip before returning to Corona Yard. Between 10-10:30 AM and 12PM, the train is making the run to/from Times Square, Monday thru Friday

 

I made a video and posted it on youtube, I guarantee you will find this interesting.

 

Link can be found here (Reoccurring glitch in the IP Board hosting software from it's Adobe Flash issues I'm assuming is forcing me to link only the site address, many photographers yesterday had the same problem):

 

The clock is ticking:

 

 

R188 Video:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ruxrBPoZp4o

 

Thanks Union Tpke. Fixed with your lead on the BBCode adjustment. It was a "o" in the script, and Adobe Flash on my end which I updated on the fly (New Computer on Win 8). Now my video is working.

Edited August 5, 2013 by realizm

[MacAlert]

I notice that Car# 7899 windows are more tinted than the other cars, is the MTA going to replace the current windows to new tinted ones, or that's my opinion.

It's the LED lighting inside the car compared to the tube lights in the converted cars.

[YankeesPwnMets]

Are they going to fix the annoying squeaky brakes on some of the R142As when they are converted? I ride the and everyday and I notice that lot of the 's R142A's have very squeaky brakes while I rarely ever see that on the (4)'s R142As. Why is that?

Edited August 6, 2013 by YankeesPwnMets

[R62AR33]

Are they going to fix the annoying squeaky brakes on some of the R142As when they are converted? I ride the and everyday and I notice that lot of the 's R142A's have very squeaky brakes while I rarely ever see that on the (4)'s R142As. Why is that?

The R142As from the have always been maintained bad by westchester Yard , and when converted more than likely they will fix it  so that the passengers for the think that they have a brand new train and not a second hand new train . As for the 6 or 7 R142As that will stay on the after conversions more than likely not , they will stay as how they are .

Edited August 6, 2013 by R62AR33

[MHV9218]

It's less that Westchester's maintenance is so terrible as much as that the is one of the toughest--if not the toughest--line(s) in the system. 

[FriedChikkin]

 

The R188 order includes 88 fully new 11-car trains, plus 38 existing 10-car trains converted to 11-car trains.

 

I was going by what my training manual stated.

Edited August 6, 2013 by FriedChikkin

[RollOver]

It's less that Westchester's maintenance is so terrible as much as that the is one of the toughest--if not the toughest--line(s) in the system. 

 

I have even said the same thing long pages ago...if the is really too busy, then that can in part be a reason why the R142As are being pushed way beyond their limits to provide very frequent service on the line.

[4P3607]

Yesterday while on the leaving Willets Point, I see the R188 signed up as entering Corona yard. This was around 9:45 AM. Shouldn't it be leaving, not entering, 45 minutes from then? I also didn't seem to see any crew, but the front was hard to see.

[YankeesPwnMets]

I saw a R188 at Junction Blvd a few weekends ago with the side LED reading " Super Express" on the middle track.. I wonder what in the world a Super Express would be

Edited August 6, 2013 by YankeesPwnMets

[via White Plains Road]

I saw a R188 at Junction Blvd a few weekends ago with the side LED reading " Super Express" on the middle track.. I wonder what in the world a Super Express would be

It would be the baseball special and US Open special. I believe its Mets Willets-Points, 61st Street-Woodside, Queensboro Plaza and all stops in Manhattan. 

Edited August 6, 2013 by via White Plains Road

[LTA1992]

That's exactly what it is. Can't wait to hear the announcement for it. Unique.

[R62AR33]

I have even said the same thing long pages ago...if the is really too busy, then that can in part be a reason why the R142As are being pushed way beyond their limits to provide very frequent service on the line.

That is a huge Positive for the R62As returning back to the , they can handle the line fine .

Edited August 7, 2013 by R62AR33

[KTrainExp]

That is a huge Positive for the R62As returning back to the , they can handle the line fine .

 

I'm not expert in terms of train car maintanance or any statistical data associated with the fleet, but what makes you think that 62As can handle the line any better than 142As? As far as I'm concerned, it's a signficant, but necessary downgrade because the 142As and all of the other NTTs allow for better passenger flow because the doors are wider as they are constructed architectually to allow for increased passenger flow.

 

It seems to me you're just blatantly bashing NTTs for no apparent reason. Westchester Yard is Westchester Yard. What makes you think they won't run the well maintained Flushing cars to the ground as well.

[R62AR33]

I'm not expert in terms of train car maintanance or any statistical data associated with the fleet, but what makes you think that 62As can handle the line any better than 142As? As far as I'm concerned, it's a signficant, but necessary downgrade because the 142As and all of the other NTTs allow for better passenger flow because the doors are wider as they are constructed architectually to allow for increased passenger flow.

 

It seems to me you're just blatantly bashing NTTs for no apparent reason. Westchester Yard is Westchester Yard. What makes you think they won't run the well maintained Flushing cars to the ground as well.

Im not bashing the NTTs for any reason at all , they have ran on the well for the most part  while there , but because the is so busy and the huge crowds during rush hour the line took its toll on the R142As , The R62As and were made for that and can handle the more because they can handle the trips and crowds on lex better than the R142As , rememeber both trains were built differently and have different specs , but i am not taking anything away from the R142As . Lets not forget that the R62As ran on the for 15-16 yrs before getting sent to flushing there were no issues then as there should't be any now.  Let me point out as well yes the R142As were made to take a beating but were not even supposed to run on the in the first place they should have been on flushing and were primarily made to be ran on the and no where else, so its just a mix of both bad meinenance and design for the R142As unfortanently.

Edited August 8, 2013 by R62AR33

[AndrewJC]

I was going by what my training manual stated.

 

Then your training manual was mistaken.

 

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=r2oqb8&s=5

 

(My post was also mistaken - I meant 8 new trains, not 88.)

[T J Trainman]

I just got a report that the 188s already at Corona 7211 etc were seen going south bound at 46st at 8:25 PM

[RTOPRO]

I just got a report that the 188s already at Corona 7211 etc were seen going south bound at 46st at 8:25 PM

You may missed a slew of the posts prior to posting yours. Those cars have been at Corona for several weeks now and crews are receiving their qualification training on a daily basis.

[T J Trainman]

I know about the daytime training but is this a night class?

[realizm]

I know about the daytime training but is this a night class?

 

What? Night classes? Did I read this correctly?

[RTOPRO]

The afternoon to evening class has been going on for quite some time now as well. No surprise.

[realizm]

Wow. Well many thanks, RTOPRO and TJ Trainman for the heads up. This is definitely news to me.

[T J Trainman]

Don't thank me lol a friend of mine saw it.

[realizm]

Seems the R188 testing has finally caught the attention of the press. Article is in DNAinfo New York, dated August 9th:
 
http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20130809/jackson-heights/mta-testing-new-computer-guided-trains-on-7-line
 

MTA Testing New Computer-Guided Trains on 7 Line

 

By Katie Honan on August 9, 2013 6:59am | Updated on August 9, 2013 6:59am

The new 7 trains have been tested for a few days, according to the MTA.
DNAinfo/Katie Honan

QUEENS — It's robo-train, for Queens.

The MTA has started testing its newest 7 trains, part of a plan to roll out computer-run operations on the line much like those on the L train.

“We’re in the process of building out CBTC (communications-based train control) on the 7,” said MTA spokesman Kevin Ortiz of the $385 million project.

The 7 train will be the second line to have this technology.

One test train, with seats still covered in plastic, was spotted by DNAinfo rolling through the 61st Street-Woodside station.

Ortiz said the authority started testing the trains within the last few days.

The MTA is retrofitting older R142 trains, which currently run on the Lexington line, to work with the automated technology. They will also roll out brand new R188 train models, which will run only on the 7 line.

As work continues on the line, 7 train service will be suspended between Queensboro Plaza and Times Square-42 Street from 11:45 p.m. Aug. 19 to 5 a.m. the next day.

The MTA said the new technology will be a win for straphangers, providing more reliable service, more frequent service and countdown clocks along the busy 7 line.

The project, which is expected to be completed by 2016, is almost halfway done, with conduits, fiber optic cables and instrument rooms installed, the MTA said.

[T J Trainman]

R-62As 1995 and 2080 now have F/W cabs....

[Kingsbridgeviewer382]

R-62As 1995 and 2080 now have F/W cabs....

Guess Westchester yard's pleas were heard. Anyway time to move on. Were they on the when you spotted them?