Union Tpke Posted January 22, 2017 Share #14801 Posted January 22, 2017 Today I rode a 160 on the where one sign inside the car was stuck on the to Jamaica Center showing the next stop as, 5th Ave - 53rd (But the time was correct though) while the other sign showed the correct signage for the , FIND said please listen to manual announcements, I wonder what causes such an bizarre malfunction of the signs? Couple weeks ago for the first time in years I seen a 160 with an stuck FIND, it was an E train but the FIND was stuck on the line Last week I was on an E with a stuck find to the . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted January 22, 2017 Share #14802 Posted January 22, 2017 The subway map on the MTA website has been updated for the Arthur Kill station. http://web.mta.info/nyct/maps/subway_map.pdf It is dated January 2017. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted January 22, 2017 Share #14803 Posted January 22, 2017 (edited) I won't be fooled with that ADA stuff- a blind person can still hear, and a deaf person can still read. If you think the ADA specifically mandates automated as opposed to audible announcements, and LED signs as opposed to readable signs, you're interpreting the law opportunistically. And the law is still subject to how the executive branch interprets it- some administrations are overzealous, others are not diligent enough. The aim of the ADA is honorable, but some of the requirements have been unnecessarily broad. Unfortunately, with the current clowns running the country, we'll be lucky if any legislation designed to help the challenged will be left standing. It's not about using gadgets and gizmos to display information, but rather that this information is conveyed as clearly as possible. That's what the ADA laws have sought to accomplish. Also, it's not just a matter of the ADA; one has to look at the logistics and the practicality of one form of information conveyance over another. Using your previous examples, static line strip maps are useless on car fleets that share trains between different lines. That's why there are FINDs on the 160s and the incoming 179s. An extensive speech program for incoming conductors to improve their diction when making announcements would be cost-inefficient and a complete waste of resources, hence the move over to automated announcements. I don't mean to single you out specifically, but I'm not sure what the problem is with making the system more user-friendly. Sure, the old ways worked back in the day. That does not mean we should continue to settle for what was the norm of decades past. Edited January 22, 2017 by Lance 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulAce Transport Posted January 22, 2017 Share #14804 Posted January 22, 2017 Does anyone here have a scanner/listen to NYCT radio transmissions? Cuz if regular railfans have it, then why not MTA railfans? Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted January 22, 2017 Share #14805 Posted January 22, 2017 (edited) Does anyone here have a scanner/listen to NYCT radio transmissions? Cuz if regular railfans have it, then why not MTA railfans? Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app There's no need for scanners to fan the NYC subway, scanners are useful when fanning freight trains as they don't have an public schedule and that's the easiest way to know the whereabouts of an Freight train to take photos/videos of them. Their also quite expensive, their use to be a link online to the scanner feed for the IRT, it wasn't even that active most of the time and the chatter wasn't that interesting TBH. I wouldn't want to spend 100+ dollars on an device to listen to what I heard on that scanner. Also a lot of NYC railfans don't care for freight trains, seems like only a handful run in the five boroughs weekly and there isn't a lot of public places you could take photos/videos of them, from what I understand in other parts of the country some rail lines see 100+ freight trains a day, I don't think NYC sees that many freight trains in a week Edited January 22, 2017 by trainfan22 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardye1 Posted January 22, 2017 Share #14806 Posted January 22, 2017 Did anyone see the 6Av Local/56 St sign today? (not a typo) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R10 2952 Posted January 22, 2017 Share #14807 Posted January 22, 2017 (edited) Also a lot of NYC railfans don't care for freight trains, seems like only a handful run in the five boroughs weekly and there isn't a lot of public places you could take photos/videos of them, from what I understand in other parts of the country some rail lines see 100+ freight trains a day, I don't think NYC sees that many freight trains in a week You'd be surprised; the LIRR Bay Ridge and Lower Montauk Branches see a few trains a day and the MNRR Hudson Line has several freight trains every weeknight. Edited January 22, 2017 by R10 2952 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted January 23, 2017 Share #14808 Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) From what I'm seeing at the last stops, The , , and doesn't do partial door closing after zone change (except the ) Edited January 23, 2017 by CH3348 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulAce Transport Posted January 23, 2017 Share #14809 Posted January 23, 2017 There's no need for scanners to fan the NYC subway, scanners are useful when fanning freight trains as they don't have an public schedule and that's the easiest way to know the whereabouts of an Freight train to take photos/videos of them. Their also quite expensive, their use to be a link online to the scanner feed for the IRT, it wasn't even that active most of the time and the chatter wasn't that interesting TBH. I wouldn't want to spend 100+ dollars on an device to listen to what I heard on that scanner. Wouldn't it be useful to listen to radio chatter to find out about unplanned service changes in advance, or would a simple notification from the MTA website or announcement be sufficient? Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted January 23, 2017 Share #14810 Posted January 23, 2017 Wouldn't it be useful to listen to radio chatter to find out about unplanned service changes in advance, or would a simple notification from the MTA website or announcement be sufficient? Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app I was under the impression that T/Os and conductors are not told the whole story anyways, so I don't think that this would be any better than the current setup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R10 2952 Posted January 23, 2017 Share #14811 Posted January 23, 2017 About 5-6 R33 WF cars have been spotted in front of the car barn at 207th Street Yard. Is this for repairs or scrapping, anyone know? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted January 23, 2017 Share #14812 Posted January 23, 2017 About 5-6 R33 WF cars have been spotted in front of the car barn at 207th Street Yard. Is this for repairs or scrapping, anyone know? I would assume that for whatever reason, they decided to put all of their work motors there... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayParkwayW Posted January 24, 2017 Share #14813 Posted January 24, 2017 Whatever happened to the light blue seats on the R62a's? I've seen less and less of them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted January 24, 2017 Share #14814 Posted January 24, 2017 I was under the impression that T/Os and conductors are not told the whole story anyways, so I don't think that this would be any better than the current setup. That may be the heart of the problem with communicating information to customers. Even the train operators don’t know! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTK246 Posted January 24, 2017 Share #14815 Posted January 24, 2017 Whatever happened to the light blue seats on the R62a's? I've seen less and less of them. I still see them sometimes on the 42nd St 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted January 24, 2017 Share #14816 Posted January 24, 2017 Q: Are there two train operators in one train on the 42 St Shuttle? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatOne2k Posted January 24, 2017 Share #14817 Posted January 24, 2017 There were trains going to both 241 St and Dyre Av for about 1 hour Monday morning between 6-7am. There were also trains leaving both 241 St (0401,0421) and Dyre Av (0400,0420) around the same time. MTA stopped the service from 241 St earlier than expected, leading to excess trains. Even worse northbound with trains to 241 St and Dyre Av bunching up. The swap isn't even consistent with the scheduling. They can extend Friday night service to Bowling Green to maintain service in Manhattan, but won't do the same thing on Monday Morning. Why bother running the Dyre shuttle for one hour S/B and duplicate N/B shuttles while through service is running. Just run the to/from Bowling Green after the G/O ends to maintain 20 minute headways until the AM rush begins. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted January 24, 2017 Share #14818 Posted January 24, 2017 Q: Are there two train operators in one train on the 42 St Shuttle? Yes. 42nd St Shuttle uses OPTO qualified T/O's so the T/O not on the operating end open/closes the doors. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beelinefan Posted January 24, 2017 Share #14819 Posted January 24, 2017 Alabama and Delaware are the only states whose names can be spelled with active subway line bullets 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted January 24, 2017 Share #14820 Posted January 24, 2017 Alabama and Delaware are the only states whose names can be spelled with active subway line bullets Tenessee <-- future Alaska <-- past Nevada <-- past Arkansas <-- past 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted January 24, 2017 Share #14821 Posted January 24, 2017 The Manhattan side of 121 St on the train will be closed starting next month 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted January 24, 2017 Share #14822 Posted January 24, 2017 The train would be better if it went to cars every 5 min mins. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R10 2952 Posted January 25, 2017 Share #14823 Posted January 25, 2017 The Manhattan side of 121 St on the train will be closed starting next month For how long? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted January 25, 2017 Share #14824 Posted January 25, 2017 For how long? 121 St Station Information Beginning 12:01 AM Monday, Feb 6 until Summer 2017 Manhattan-bound 121 St platform will close for renovation until Summer 2017. Travel Alternatives Use nearby 111 St instead. For service to this station, take the to 111 St and transfer to a Jamaica Center-bound . For service from this station, take the to Sutphin Blvd-Archer Av-JFK Airport and transfer to a Manhattan-bound . Alternate travel note: To/from 121 St, take the Q56 bus instead. Transfer between trains and buses at 111 St. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted January 25, 2017 Share #14825 Posted January 25, 2017 Now when on earth are are they going to start the Bay Ridge Avenue rehab? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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