SUBWAY - Random Thoughts Topic

[checkmatechamp13]

Alternate travel note:

To/from 121 St, take the Q56 bus instead. Transfer between trains and buses at 111 St.

 

If they're coming from Lower Manhattan, they can also take the to Lefferts for the Q10. 

[Missabassie]

Whatever happened to the light blue seats on the R62a's? I've seen less and less of them.

 

Good. They should stick with the original scheme instead of mixing up the generations. Come to think of it, I was on an R68A train the other day & it had a blue triplet.... (think it was 5060)

[CDTA]

Why did the MTA remove most of the manhattan neighborhood maps from the site?

[Subway Rat]

Rerouted train via the line:

 

"This is a 71st Street bound train. Via the line."

 

"The next stop is: Lexington Avenue/63rd Street"

[NewFlyer 230]

21st Van Alst on the could sure use a make over. I know some people will be mad at me but I alway thought part of Chambers Street on the should be walled up with only two platforms open being the Lower Manhattan platform and rehab the center platform and wallup the Brooklyn/Queens platform and the side platform. This would mean that there will be three tracks open just in case the was rerouted there and you would have a much smaller Chambers Street to work with. Of course the tracks would have to be reconfigure but that shouldn't be the hard part.

[Around the Horn]

Because of the odd elevations of the tracks south of Chambers Street it's impossible to wall off the Brooklyn bound platform and connect that track to the relay track (which then splits into the two center ones)

[N6 Limited]

I have a question about Canal St on the Nassau Line. The Southbound Tracks & platform are being used for service in both directions, and the northbound tracks are decommissioned or whatever, but on the street level there is no evidence of an entrance to the northbound platform, where was the entrance?

[Gong Gahou]

According to Joseph Brennan, this station had three access points - two of which have been removed from service.

 

The west platform had access up to street entrances in buildings on both sides of Canal St, while the east platform had an underpass to a third building on the northeast corner of Canal St.

However, after doing a bit of research I am certain there is one more. Take a look at these photos, courtesy of the Museum of the City of New York (captions are mine):


(Intermediate landing; looking west; standing over northbound local track; northbound express/stub track beyond that wall; Chambers Street to the left, Bowery to the right)
 

(Same place as previous photo; looking southwest; end of platform and connection to west platform is visible in the distance)


(Stairway down to platform; facing southeast; facing northbound local track)


(East platform; facing north; northbound express track shown; nearest stairway leads up to street, second nearest goes down to Brooklyn-bound platform of the Broadway station - aka Canal Street, lower level)
 
These photos reveal a similar setup that currently exists on the west platform: two stairways up to an intermediate landing, followed by stairways up to the fare control and to street level. trainluvr uploaded a clip of this station back in 1994, and the stairway in the last photo is visible at the 07:58 mark. A fairly recent video from Turtle, taken when in-service trains were passing through the abandoned station, shows both stairways intact - albeit altered to restrict access. Its close proximity to the end of the platform is an indication that it leads to the southeast corner of Centre and Canal Streets. While this says nothing about the exact location of the entrance, it is possible it was right across the street from where the currently-open entrance is.

Edited January 28, 2017 by Gong Gahou

[agar io]

On the MTA Neighborhood Maps website (http://web.mta.info/maps/neighborhood_maps.htm), there's no map for Jackson Heights.

 

Seems like a pretty strange omission to me, especially as Roosevelt Av-74 St even has its own WalkNYC map.

 

Does anyone know why?

Edited January 28, 2017 by agar io

[trainfan22]

The train had a minor derailment last night at Mets - Wills Point, just saw it on the news.

[danielhg121]

My transit app sent me multiple alerts, at first it was a train with mechanical problems, then it a rail condition and then an investigation of a rail condition and then both directions were skipping mets.

 

 

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[R10 2952]

According to Joseph Brennan, this station had three access points - two of which have been removed from service.

However, after doing a bit of research I am certain there is one more. Take a look at these photos, courtesy of the Museum of the City of New York (captions are mine):

(Intermediate landing; looking west; standing over northbound local track; northbound express/stub track beyond that wall; Chambers Street to the left, Bowery to the right)

(Same place as previous photo; looking southwest; end of platform and connection to west platform is visible in the distance)

(Stairway down to platform; facing southeast; facing northbound local track)

(East platform; facing north; northbound express track shown; nearest stairway leads up to street, second nearest goes down to Brooklyn-bound platform of the Broadway station - aka Canal Street, lower level)

These photos reveal a similar setup that currently exists on the west platform: two stairways up to an intermediate landing, followed by stairways up to the fare control and to street level. trainluvr uploaded a clip of this station back in 1994, and the stairway in the last photois visible at the 07:58 mark. A fairly recent video from Turtle, taken when in-service trains were passing through the abandoned station, shows both stairways intact - albeit altered to restrict access. Its close proximity to the end of the platform is an indication that it leads to the southeast corner of Centre and Canal Streets. While this says nothing about the exact location of the entrance, it is possible it was right across the street from where the currently-open entrance is.

Thanks for the info! I used Canal Street on the a lot back in the late '90s and it always got on my nerves that the only exit from the Nassau Line platform was that cramped stairway on the west side of Centre Street- practically a chokepoint.  I've been searching for info on the east exits and extra west entrance for years, but never found anything.  All I know is that the extra passages were closed off sometime before 1996, but after 1992.

[Train92]

Anybody knows what set derailed?

[D to Burke Avenue]

Why can't the run express to Brooklyn Bridge instead of running local? Or, why not send it to Bowling Green if the TA is just doing work on the Joralemon Tubes.

[Around the Horn]

Why can't the run express to Brooklyn Bridge instead of running local? Or, why not send it to Bowling Green if the TA is just doing work on the Joralemon Tubes.

 

It does run to Bowling Green on weekends when they are only working on the tubes.

 

 trains run local when they terminate at Brooklyn Bridge because it is much easier to merge and   trains on the Lex, when they all follow the same route from 125 Street, through the loop and back up to 125 Street, than it is to attempt to merge  trains at Brooklyn Bridge southbound and then switch them northbound.

[bstar1]

They could make run Express to Bowling Green instead of 42 St-Grand Central, and Local 125 St and Brooklyn Bridge.

[Jemorie]

They could make run Express to Bowling Green instead of 42 St-Grand Central, and Local 125 St and Brooklyn Bridge.

Around the horn already explain why it gets shorten to the grand central during weekend outages like this

[Around the Horn]

They could make run Express to Bowling Green instead of 42 St-Grand Central, and Local 125 St and Brooklyn Bridge.

 

That is not an option because when the  operates to Brooklyn Bridge, the trackage south is closed and when the  operates to Bowling Green, trying to fit in the  and fumigate both services is virtually impossible. 

Edited January 29, 2017 by Around the Horn

[paulrivera]

It does run to Bowling Green on weekends when they are only working on the tubes.

 

 trains run local when they terminate at Brooklyn Bridge because it is much easier to merge and   trains on the Lex, when they all follow the same route from 125 Street, through the loop and back up to 125 Street, than it is to attempt to merge  trains at Brooklyn Bridge southbound and then switch them northbound.

The downtown is much easier this weekend since every other is relaying at 3rd Avenue-138th Street (spreads out the merging.) On the flip side, if they're fumigating those trains at 125th uptown, that might be a small problem. Last week they were running most of the short trains in service all the way to 3rd Avenue, but it seems to vary by GO.

 

I hope they don't continue that 16 minute Bronx supplement going forward though.

[LongLiveRock]

Pardon my ignorance, but does anyone know when station ridership data for 2016 will be released?

[Around the Horn]

Pardon my ignorance, but does anyone know when station ridership data for 2016 will be released?

 

I heard sometime in April.

[GreatOne2k]

The used to run express to Brooklyn Bridge during GOs(2003-2005?) while the and went local to Brooklyn Bridge

[agar io]

I heard sometime in April.

It's always around the third week of April. Last year it was on the 18th. The year before, the 20th. I don't know why 2014 was an outlier, but they released in March that year.

 

So, I'm guessing third Monday of each April, in which case this year it should be on the 17th. Unless the data comes in March like in 2014.

On the MTA Neighborhood Maps website (http://web.mta.info/maps/neighborhood_maps.htm), there's no map for Jackson Heights.

 

Seems like a pretty strange omission to me, especially as Roosevelt Av-74 St even has its own WalkNYC map.

 

Does anyone know why?

 

Does anyone know where any WalkNYC maps can be found online?

[bobtehpanda]

Does anyone know where any WalkNYC maps can be found online?

 

A select few can be found on the MTA's Neighborhood Maps page under "NYC DOT maps".

[agar io]

A select few can be found on the MTA's Neighborhood Maps page under "NYC DOT maps".

 

I already knew about these maps, but thank you anyway.

 

The problem is that the MTA and the DOT don't seem to have published any other WalkNYC maps.

Edited January 31, 2017 by agar io