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9 minutes ago, TheMTAEmprie said:

I know, no shade at him, just that it's funny to me give a big grandiose closure of a 139 bus order.

So you're saying that since it's a smaller order that means it's not worthy of giving updates on? I'm not understanding this logic here.

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Other confirmed orders via the finance committee:

355 Standard Battery Electric Buses (BEB) + 90 Artic Battery Electric Buses for NYCT for 445 of 470 electric units (award/delivery no later than 2024)

25 Standard Battery Electric Buses for MTA Bus (BEB) adding 25 to 445 ordered NYCT units (470 total)

5 standard Battery Electric Buses BT&E (see LFSe+ above)

45+15 Battery Electric Buses (60 XE40 bus order)

245 NYCT articulated bus order (order expected to be awarded/complete by the end of 2025)

25+25+85 MTA bus order (135 LFS bus order expected to begin soon) 

Purchase 173 MTA Bus Standard Diesel Buses (NOVA) by the end of 2024

Purchase 116 MTA Bus Standard Diesel Buses (NF) by the end of 2024

Purchase 250 MTA Bus Express Buses by the end of 2026

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1 hour ago, limitednyc said:

So this means the end of natural gas buses. I guess  the 173 lfs's will be 90 for ca and 83 to a depot to named later. 

The MTA Bus order for the Novas only applies to LaGuardia, Baisley Park, and Far Rockaway/JFK.

1 hour ago, MysteriousBtrain said:

Other confirmed orders via the finance committee:

355 Standard Battery Electric Buses (BEB) + 90 Artic Battery Electric Buses for NYCT for 445 of 470 electric units (award/delivery no later than 2024)

25 Standard Battery Electric Buses for MTA Bus (BEB) adding 25 to 445 ordered NYCT units (470 total)

5 standard Battery Electric Buses BT&E (see LFSe+ above)

45+15 Battery Electric Buses (60 XE40 bus order)

245 NYCT articulated bus order (order expected to be awarded/complete by the end of 2025)

25+25+85 MTA bus order (135 LFS bus order expected to begin soon) 

Purchase 173 MTA Bus Standard Diesel Buses (NOVA) by the end of 2024

Purchase 116 MTA Bus Standard Diesel Buses (NF) by the end of 2024

Purchase 250 MTA Bus Express Buses by the end of 2026

This could mean that the D4500CLs may retire in 2027, meaning the end of the CL fleet for 23 years (2004-2027).

 

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8 hours ago, limitednyc said:

So this means the end of natural gas buses. I guess  the 173 lfs's will be 90 for ca and 83 to a depot to named later. 

The first part, you may be up to something. 

Assuming all pre-2011 buses are retired by the end of this year, that's 355 AEBs to be delivered to replace the 2011 units. In my memory, there are the 90 BT&E buses (7000-7089, 8000-8089, 4810-4899) totaling 270 units. That leaves 85 buses to be delivered. 

This could be possible confirmation of AEBs to WF. 85 buses to replace 88 C40 units. But we shall see.

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11 hours ago, MysteriousBtrain said:

Other confirmed orders via the finance committee:

355 Standard Battery Electric Buses (BEB) + 90 Artic Battery Electric Buses for NYCT for 445 of 470 electric units (award/delivery no later than 2024)

25 Standard Battery Electric Buses for MTA Bus (BEB) adding 25 to 445 ordered NYCT units (470 total)

5 standard Battery Electric Buses BT&E (see LFSe+ above)

45+15 Battery Electric Buses (60 XE40 bus order)

245 NYCT articulated bus order (order expected to be awarded/complete by the end of 2025)

25+25+85 MTA bus order (135 LFS bus order expected to begin soon) 

Purchase 173 MTA Bus Standard Diesel Buses (NOVA) by the end of 2024

Purchase 116 MTA Bus Standard Diesel Buses (NF) by the end of 2024

Purchase 250 MTA Bus Express Buses by the end of 2026

90 AEB Artics=elimination of the 1200s.

245 more artics=elimination of the 4700s and most of the early 58/59/52/5300s

135 LFS MTA bus order=rest of the NGs

173 LFS/116 NF MTA bus order=displacement of the 2014 XD40s?

250 MTA express bus order=the end of the CLs (they’ll need more to get rid of the CTs).

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8 hours ago, NBTA said:

90 AEB Artics=elimination of the 1200s.

245 more artics=elimination of the 4700s and most of the early 58/59/52/5300s

135 LFS MTA bus order=rest of the NGs

173 LFS/116 NF MTA bus order=displacement of the 2014 XD40s?

250 MTA express bus order=the end of the CLs (they’ll need more to get rid of the CTs).

The 245 artic order will eliminate the 2011-12 Nova LFSA artics (5770-5986) and maybe some 2012-2013 Nova LFSA (5252-5298, 5300-5363). The 2013 New Flyer XD60 (4710-4798) will not go until they exercise an option order or place a new order.

The 135 Nova LFS order with the optional 173 LFS order and 116 New Flyer XD40 order for MTA Bus will eliminate the NGs. The 2014 XD40 at LGA will not be touched.

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2 hours ago, Mpn4179 said:

The 245 artic order will eliminate the 2011-12 Nova LFSA artics (5770-5986) and maybe some 2012-2013 Nova LFSA (5252-5298, 5300-5363). The 2013 New Flyer XD60 (4710-4798) will not go until they exercise an option order or place a new order.

The 135 Nova LFS order with the optional 173 LFS order and 116 New Flyer XD40 order for MTA Bus will eliminate the NGs. The 2014 XD40 at LGA will not be touched.

The 245 bus artic order could entirely replace the 2012-13 XD60s (4710-4799) and a portion of the 2011-13 Nova LFS order. Since they're all roughly the same age, it will depend on which buses are in the worst shape.

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I heard that there may be changes to the upcoming spring pick or later in the Manhattan Division, routes will be shuffled. 

The M66 (M72 may also be due to the transverse) will be moved to Manhattanville while the M60-SBS will be shifted over to Mother Clara Hale instead.  

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45 minutes ago, Calvin said:

I heard that there may be changes to the upcoming spring pick or later in the Manhattan Division, routes will be shuffled. 

The M66 (M72 may also be due to the transverse) will be moved to Manhattanville while the M60-SBS will be shifted over to Mother Clara Hale instead.  

Is it permanent until Quill gets their roof top fixed or is it a official swap where the buses stay at those Depots for good ?

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1 minute ago, Ultimategamer12c said:

Is it permanent until Quill gets their roof top fixed or is it an official swap where the buses stay at those Depots for good ?

Both moves are to accommodate the Roof closure the M72 will not be moving. Both of the routes will go back to MJQ once the work is completed which it targeted for Summer Pick.

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10 minutes ago, Ultimategamer12c said:

Is it permanent until Quill gets their roof top fixed or is it a official swap where the buses stay at those Depots for good ?

It's permanent because of the roof top needing fixing. I remember it was brought up before that the top part of the roof had cracks, but the fixing date was unknown to when it'll be in effect. When the construction is finished 100%, the routes would be back the way it was.


https://w42st.com/post/michael-quill-bus-depot-cracks-rooftop/ : article relating to Quill with the roof fixing

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9 hours ago, Nova Fly Guy said:

Both moves are to accommodate the Roof closure the M72 will not be moving. Both of the routes will go back to MJQ once the work is completed which it targeted for Summer Pick.

Summer Pick? Construction of that rooftop does not take 3-4 months to do. Quill is to lose 120 buses and M66 to MV & M60SBS to OF could use 1/3 of the fleet. Buses with Luggage parcels will go to OF, while 20 buses (mainly Nova LFSes) use MV. 
 

& btw: that depot is 25 years old 

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37 minutes ago, MysteriousBtrain said:

So just to be clear, only M66 and M60 are moving? Everything else stays at their depots? I remember hearing of other movements, including the M79/86.

Correct the MCI parking was spilt between MJQ/OH to make more space on the Roof. The job is not suppose to go past the Summer Pick as it stands right now. The problem was MV didn’t have enough space to Take the M60/66, you would have to still send routes out of MV for 5443-5467.

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35 minutes ago, Nova Fly Guy said:

Correct the MCI parking was spilt between MJQ/OH to make more space on the Roof. The job is not suppose to go past the Summer Pick as it stands right now. The problem was MV didn’t have enough space to Take the M60/66, you would have to still send routes out of MV for 5443-5467.

5443 is Kingsbridge

5444-5467 is MQ..

 

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I do find it hard to believe that the rooftop construction is only supposed to last 3-4 months. Either the roof isn’t as damaged as it was believed or the MTA is only doing the bare minimum to get the roof open as quickly as possible in the short term.

As for the temporary swap, as a fan I kind of like the prospect of seeing the New Flyer hybrids back on the Transverse.

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5 hours ago, FLX9304 said:

Summer Pick? Construction of that rooftop does not take 3-4 months to do. Quill is to lose 120 buses and M66 to MV & M60SBS to OF could use 1/3 of the fleet. Buses with Luggage parcels will go to OF, while 20 buses (mainly Nova LFSes) use MV. 
 

& btw: that depot is 25 years old 

The depot is 25 years old, but in actuality, the building is 57 years old. Quill Depot used to be a storage facility and headquarters for Greyhound buses from 1966-1996. Greyhound sold it to the MTA, which then renovated and opened the depot in 1998 as Westside Depot. It was renamed Michael J. Quill Depot two years later.

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Clarification of when the building was built and when the MTA opened the depot.
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