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GojiMet86

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34 minutes ago, Gotham Bus Co. said:

Is there a difference any more between N40 and N41? The route paths look identical on NICE's web site.

 

There used to be, but now these two are the exact same route. It's almost like they kept one extra route to say they didn't cut a route or something.

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jaf0519

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34 minutes ago, Gotham Bus Co. said:

Is there a difference any more between N40 and N41? The route paths look identical on NICE's web site.

No. They rerouted the N43 over the N41 unique portion on Babylon Tpke. Now the N40/41 is just one route with two numbers for some reason.

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2 hours ago, Gotham Bus Co. said:

So the N40 and N41 are identical. 

Yep. It is a somewhat different scenario with the N70 and the N72. For all things considered, the N72 is just a short turn of the N70, but technically the last eastbound stop is on Route 110 south of Conklin St, while the N70 stop there is on the north side, so that technically makes the route slightly different.

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10 hours ago, GojiMet86 said:

 

There used to be, but now these two are the exact same route. It's almost like they kept one extra route to say they didn't cut a route or something.

They also cut some trips at night. Essentially there is less service now on the n40/41 than the old n40 and the n41.

 

5 hours ago, jaf0519 said:

Yep. It is a somewhat different scenario with the N70 and the N72. For all things considered, the N72 is just a short turn of the N70, but technically the last eastbound stop is on Route 110 south of Conklin St, while the N70 stop there is on the north side, so that technically makes the route slightly different.

There really is no point in having an n41 and n72 label at this point. These routes are essentially dead: planning wise.

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BM5 via Woodhaven

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https://www.nicebus.com/Passenger-Information/Now

Effective January 2nd, 2022

n1- Net Rush Hour Service Reduction, Weekday Service Span Expansion South of Green Acres 

  • AM service from Elmont to Hewlett from 6:19 AM - 8:40 AM will now operate every 35 minutes instead of every 20-25 minutes
  • The last bus to Jamaica from Hewlett will now depart at 7:57 AM instead of 8:32 AM (-1 trip)
  • PM service from Jamaica between 4:00 PM and 6:00 PM will depart every 30 minutes instead of every 20 minutes
  • The 8:00 PM trip from Elmont to Hewlett will now originate in Jamaica at 7:30 PM
  • The last trip from Hewlett to Elmont will now depart at 8:05 PM instead of 6:34 PM

n4X - Significant Frequency & Service Reduction, Net Span Increases, and Stop Addition

  • New Stop at Bayview Avenue
  • Service Span Comparison from Freeport 
    • OLD - 5:28 AM - 6:49 AM & 2:09 PM - 5:47 PM (14 trips)
    • NEW - 5:29 AM - 8:02 AM & 1:28 PM - 5:16 PM (11 trips)
  • Service Span Comparison from Jamaica
    • OLD - 6:20 AM - 7:57 AM & 5:00 PM - 7:13 PM (14 trips)
    • NEW - 6:22 AM - 9:12 AM & 2:38 PM - 6:35 PM (11 trips)
  • AM service will operate every 28-50 minutes instead of every 14-30 minutes
  • PM service will operate every 25-63 minutes instead of every 21-30 minutes

n6X - Stop Added at UBS Arena

n20, n21 - Buses will also stop at the north side of Great Neck LIRR

n24, n78, n79 - Buses will stop with the n80 at Hicksville LIRR  (south of the train station, on Newbridge Road)

n31, n32, n33 - Buses routes will change in Far Rockaway following end of construction

n35 - Net Sunday Service Increases, Saturday Service Changes

  • Sunday service between Hempstead and Baldwin on Sundays will now run every 30-35 minutes instead of every 66-70 minutes
  • Service between Hempstead and Westbury will operate every 60 minutes instead of every 66 minutes during daytime hours
  • Saturdays: A new 10:55 PM trip has been added from Baldwin to Roosevelt Field Mall, expanding span 1 hour later
  • Saturdays: The 7:18 PM trip from Roosevelt Field Mall to Baldwin will be discontinued
  • Saturdays: Trip times between Roosevelt Field Mall and Westbury will be revised 

n40 - Mineola Service Span Increases, Late Night & Weekend Frequency Decreases

  • Weekdays: The first bus from Mineola will now depart at 5:00 AM instead of 5:32 AM (+1 trip)
  • Weekdays: The last bus from Mineola will now depart at 12:00 AM instead of 11:15 PM (+1 trip)
  • Weekdays: Service between Hempstead and Freeport from 12:30 AM - 2:30 AM will operate every 60 minutes instead of every 30 minutes 
  • Saturdays: The 3:38 AM, 4:40 AM, and 12:38 AM trips from Hempstead to Freeport will be discontinued
  • Saturdays: SB service from 6:00 PM - 9:50 PM, NB service from 5:00 PM - 9:00 PM will operate every 22-30 minutes, instead of every 20 minutes
  • Saturdays: The last bus from Hempstead to Mineola will now depart at 11:35 PM instead of 12:08 AM (-1 trip)
  • Sundays: The 4:38 AM & 5:37 AM trips from Hempstead to Freeport will be discontinued
  • Sundays: The last bus from Mineola will now depart at 11:48 PM instead of 10:20 PM (+3 trips)
  • Sundays: The last bus from Hempstead to Mineola will now depart at 11:35 PM instead of 10:07 PM (+3 trips)

n43 - Sunday Service Frequency Enhancements

  • Service will now operate every 35 minutes during the late AM and afternoon hours instead of every 50 minutes
  • Service span starts and ends earlier

There are some other changes, I might took a look further and see what other seemingly hidden changes i had besides what they posted on their highlights section. 

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20 hours ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

n20, n21 - Buses will also stop at the north side of Great Neck LIRR

Some drivers coming into Great Neck already do this anyway so that they can drop off passengers and then go right to parking on N Station Plaza for layover. I guess this change makes it consistent.

20 hours ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

n24, n78, n79 - Buses will stop with the n80 at Hicksville LIRR  (south of the train station, on Newbridge Road)

There was some conversation behind this during the last public meeting. The accusation was that buses in the current n24/n78/n79 bus stop under the tracks were blocking a lane of traffic while they were there and it was disruptive to traffic on Newbridge Rd. One of the members of the panel raised this and suggested that there needs to be some sort of a dedicated area for buses.

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On 12/15/2021 at 3:40 AM, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

https://www.nicebus.com/Passenger-Information/Now

Effective January 2nd, 2022

n1- Net Rush Hour Service Reduction, Weekday Service Span Expansion South of Green Acres 

  • AM service from Elmont to Hewlett from 6:19 AM - 8:40 AM will now operate every 35 minutes instead of every 20-25 minutes
  • The last bus to Jamaica from Hewlett will now depart at 7:57 AM instead of 8:32 AM (-1 trip)
  • PM service from Jamaica between 4:00 PM and 6:00 PM will depart every 30 minutes instead of every 20 minutes
  • The 8:00 PM trip from Elmont to Hewlett will now originate in Jamaica at 7:30 PM
  • The last trip from Hewlett to Elmont will now depart at 8:05 PM instead of 6:34 PM

n4X - Significant Frequency & Service Reduction, Net Span Increases, and Stop Addition

  • New Stop at Bayview Avenue
  • Service Span Comparison from Freeport 
    • OLD - 5:28 AM - 6:49 AM & 2:09 PM - 5:47 PM (14 trips)
    • NEW - 5:29 AM - 8:02 AM & 1:28 PM - 5:16 PM (11 trips)
  • Service Span Comparison from Jamaica
    • OLD - 6:20 AM - 7:57 AM & 5:00 PM - 7:13 PM (14 trips)
    • NEW - 6:22 AM - 9:12 AM & 2:38 PM - 6:35 PM (11 trips)
  • AM service will operate every 28-50 minutes instead of every 14-30 minutes
  • PM service will operate every 25-63 minutes instead of every 21-30 minutes

n6X - Stop Added at UBS Arena

n20, n21 - Buses will also stop at the north side of Great Neck LIRR

n24, n78, n79 - Buses will stop with the n80 at Hicksville LIRR  (south of the train station, on Newbridge Road)

n31, n32, n33 - Buses routes will change in Far Rockaway following end of construction

n35 - Net Sunday Service Increases, Saturday Service Changes

  • Sunday service between Hempstead and Baldwin on Sundays will now run every 30-35 minutes instead of every 66-70 minutes
  • Service between Hempstead and Westbury will operate every 60 minutes instead of every 66 minutes during daytime hours
  • Saturdays: A new 10:55 PM trip has been added from Baldwin to Roosevelt Field Mall, expanding span 1 hour later
  • Saturdays: The 7:18 PM trip from Roosevelt Field Mall to Baldwin will be discontinued
  • Saturdays: Trip times between Roosevelt Field Mall and Westbury will be revised 

n40 - Mineola Service Span Increases, Late Night & Weekend Frequency Decreases

  • Weekdays: The first bus from Mineola will now depart at 5:00 AM instead of 5:32 AM (+1 trip)
  • Weekdays: The last bus from Mineola will now depart at 12:00 AM instead of 11:15 PM (+1 trip)
  • Weekdays: Service between Hempstead and Freeport from 12:30 AM - 2:30 AM will operate every 60 minutes instead of every 30 minutes 
  • Saturdays: The 3:38 AM, 4:40 AM, and 12:38 AM trips from Hempstead to Freeport will be discontinued
  • Saturdays: SB service from 6:00 PM - 9:50 PM, NB service from 5:00 PM - 9:00 PM will operate every 22-30 minutes, instead of every 20 minutes
  • Saturdays: The last bus from Hempstead to Mineola will now depart at 11:35 PM instead of 12:08 AM (-1 trip)
  • Sundays: The 4:38 AM & 5:37 AM trips from Hempstead to Freeport will be discontinued
  • Sundays: The last bus from Mineola will now depart at 11:48 PM instead of 10:20 PM (+3 trips)
  • Sundays: The last bus from Hempstead to Mineola will now depart at 11:35 PM instead of 10:07 PM (+3 trips)

n43 - Sunday Service Frequency Enhancements

  • Service will now operate every 35 minutes during the late AM and afternoon hours instead of every 50 minutes
  • Service span starts and ends earlier

There are some other changes, I might took a look further and see what other seemingly hidden changes i had besides what they posted on their highlights section. 

Can you do this one for the Winter Bee Line changes to when you get the chance? Thanks

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Gotham Bus Co.

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On 12/15/2021 at 3:40 AM, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

n20, n21 - Buses will also stop at the north side of Great Neck LIRR

 

I'm surprised that NICE is still using both N20 numbers. I would keep the "H" leg as N20 and change the "G" leg to N10. 

 

Then again, if I were in charge at NICE, I might try to scrap the N20G altogether and have MTA extend the Q12 to Great Neck 

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BM5 via Woodhaven

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I looked at the changes, and there's quite a few changes, particularly on the busier routes where people using the bus before or after a certain hour are getting outright f**ked and having all their service eliminated. There's improvements here and there which are good, but at the same time some of these cuts are pretty significant, and were not highlighted, which they should have been if service is cut with limited/no alternatives. Here they are:

n4 Local - Net Weekend Service Reductions

  • Saturdays: Jamaica-bound service from 5:00 AM - 8:30 AM will operate every 16-20 minutes instead of every 12-15 minutes
  • Saturdays: Jamaica-bound service from 3:25 PM - 8:00 PM will operate every 20-21 minutes instead of every 14-16 minutes
  • Saturdays: Freeport-bound service from 5:50 AM - 9:05 AM will operate every 20 minutes instead of every 15 minutes
  • Saturdays: Freeport-bound service from 4:45 PM - 10:00 PM will operate every 20 minutes instead of every 12-17 minutes
  • Saturday Night/Sunday Morning: The 3:38 AM and 3:40 AM trips from Freeport will be combined into one bus departing at 3:42 AM
  • Sundays: Jamaica-bound service from 4:30 AM - 10:00 AM will operate every 20-30 minutes instead of every 14-20 minutes
  • Sundays: Jamaica-bound service from 10:00 AM - 4:00 PM will operate every 19-22 minutes instead of every 23-25 minutes
  • Sundays: Jamaica-bound service from 4:00 PM - 6:30 PM will operate every 22 minutes instead of every 16-20 minutes
  • Sundays: Freeport-bound service from 5:30 AM - 11:00 AM will operate every 22 minutes instead of every 20 minutes
  • Sundays: Freeport-bound service from 11:00 AM - 5:15 PM will operate every 22 minutes instead of every 25 minutes
  • Sundays: Freeport-bound service from 5:15 PM - 9:15 PM will operate every 22-24 minutes instead of every 16-20 minutes

n6 Local - Rush Hour & Early Evening Service Reductions, Late Evening Service Improvements

  • Rush hour service will operate every 15 minutes instead of every 10 minutes
  • Queens-bound Service from 8:00 PM - 9:00 PM & Hempstead-bound service from 9:00 PM - 10:00 PM will operate every 20 minutes instead of every 15 minutes daily
  • Queens-bound Service from 10:24 PM - 12:25 AM & Hempstead-bound service from 11:20 PM - 1:20 AM will operate every 20 minutes instead of every 30 minutes daily

n6X - Net Service Reductions, Span Changes, Stop Addition

  • Buses will now stop at UBS Arena
  • The 5:02 AM, 5:17 AM trips from Hempstead to Jamaica will be discontinued (first bus from Hempstead will now be at 5:32 AM)
  • The 6:00 AM & 6:15 AM trips from Jamaica to Hempstead will be discontinued (first bus from Jamaica will now be at 6:30)
  • A new 8:42 AM trip from Hempstead to Jamaica will be added (previous last bus was at 8:27 AM)
  • A new 9:45 AM trip from Jamaica to Hempstead will be added (previous last bus was at 9:30 AM)
  • The first afternoon trip from Hempstead at 1:51 PM and the 2:04 PM trip will be discontinued (new first bus will now be at 2:19 PM)
  • The first afternoon trip from Jamaica at 3:00 PM and the 3:15 PM trip will be discontinued (new first bus will now be at 3:30 PM)
  • A new 5:33 PM trip from Hempstead to Jamaica will be added (previous last bus was at 5:18 PM)
  • A new 6:45 PM trip from Jamaica to Hempstead will be added (previous last bus was at 6:30 AM)

n15 - Sunday Service Span Increase, Evening Headway Increase

  • Service departing Roosevelt Field Mall (RFM) after 6:45 PM will operate every 45-50 minutes instead of every 35-45 minutes
  • Service departing Long Beach after 8:00 PM will operate every 45-50 minutes instead of every 35-45 minutes
  • The last bus departing RFM will now be at 10:51 PM instead of 10:21 PM
  • The last bus departing Long Beach will now be at 12:09 AM instead of 11:35 PM

n16 - Service Span Increase, Some AM Reductions

  • A new 5:30 AM trip from Hempstead to NCC will be added
  • The 6:08 AM trip from NCC to Rockville Centre will now depart at 5:56 AM
  • NB Service from 6:30 AM - 8:00 AM will operate every 40 minutes instead of every 30 minutes
  • The existing 9:38 PM, 10:18 PM, and 10:58 PM (last bus) trips from Rockville Centre will depart 8 minutes earlier
  • The 9:53 PM and 10:28 PM trips from NCC will now depart at 9:43 PM and 10:18 PM, respectively
  • A new later trip from NCC will be added at 10:53 PM, extending the service span
  • Two new later trips from Rockville Centre will be added at 11:15 PM and 11:50 PM, expanding the service span

n20G - Rush Hour Service Reductions

  • AM Peak Direction Rush Hour Service will operate every 15 minutes instead of every 7.5 minutes
  • Weekdays: Flushing-bound service from 6:44 PM to 9:45 PM will operate every 20-30 minutes instead of every 15 minutes
  • Weekdays: The 10:03 PM trip from Great Neck will be discontinued
    • The 9:48 PM trip will depart at 9:52 PM, and the 10:33 PM trip will depart at 10:29 PM, creating a 37 minute gap
  • Weekdays: Great Neck trips departing Flushing from 7:00 PM - 9:20 PM will operate every 16-20 minutes instead of every 15 minutes
  • Weekdays: Trips departing Flushing from 9:30 PM - 10:40 PM will operate ~ 30 minutes instead of every 15 minutes

n20H - Weekday Service Hour Cuts, Sunday Service Span Increase, Net Service Reductions

  • Weekdays: Service from 4:30 AM - 5:30 AM between Roslyn and Great Neck will be discontinued, with zero alternative
  • Weekdays: Service before 9:00 AM departing Hicksville will operate every 32 (one interval) or 36-40 minutes instead of every 32-35 minutes (-1 trip)
  • Weekdays: The 3:26 PM trip from Hicksville will be discontinued
  • Weekdays: Service from 3:53 PM - 9:00 PM  departing Hicksville will operate every 25-35 minutes instead of every 36-50 minutes (+2 trips)
  • Weekdays: Headways are now inconsistent on shared n20H/n21 portion between Great Neck and Roslyn, with headways ranging from 2-36 minutes during peak hours
  • Saturdays: Flushing-bound service will operate every 20 minutes from 5:30 AM - 3:40 PM instead of the following headways:
    • AM - Every 15 minutes , Midday - Every 30 minutes
  • Saturdays: Flushing-bound service will operate every 30 minutes from 3:40 PM - 6:00 PM instead of every 15 minutes
  • Saturdays: Service from Flushing will operate every 20 minutes from 6:10 AM - 4:30 PM instead of the following headways:
    • AM - Every 15 minutes , Midday - Every 30 minutes
  • Saturdays: Service from Flushing will operate every 30 minutes from 4:30 PM - 6:30 PM instead of every 15 minutes
  • Sundays: A new earlier 4:41 AM trip from Great Neck to Flushing will be added
  • Sundays: A new earlier 5:20 AM trip from Flushing to Great Neck will be added
  • Sundays: Flushing-bound service will operate every 30 minutes from 5:15 AM - 8:45 AM instead of every 20 minutes
  • Sundays: Service from Flushing from 6:00 AM - 9:00 AM will operate every 30 minutes instead of every 20 minutes

n21 - Weekday Service Span Enhancements, Saturday Reductions

  • Service Span in the PM to Great Neck has been expanded as follows: (+1 trip)
    • OLD: 3:15 PM - 9:44 PM
    • NEW: 2:40 PM - 10:03 PM
  • Service Span in the PM to Glen Cove has been expanded as follows: (+1 trip)
    • OLD: 2:06 PM - 8:55 PM
    • NEW: 1:50 PM - 9:20 PM
  • PM departures have been shifted by up to 20 minutes later
  • Saturday AM service will operate hourly instead of every 30-40 minutes (-2 trips in each direction)

n22 (Hicksville to Mineola Portion) - Weekday Service Increases, Elimination of Early Morning & Late Evening Service between Roosevelt Field Mall (RFM) & Hicksville 

  • Weekdays: Service departing from Mineola between 8:20 AM and 11:30 AM will operate every 15-27 minutes instead of every 18-45 minutes
  • Weekdays: Service departing from Hicksville between 9:00 AM and 12:30 PM will operate every 14-20 minutes (w/ one 30 minute interval) instead of every 30 minutes
  • Weekdays: Service departing from Hicksville between 6:20 PM and 8:50 PM will operate every 17-30 minutes instead of every 30-45 minutes
  • Saturdays: The 4:02 AM and 4:28 AM trips from Hicksville to Jamaica will now originate at Mineola at 4:33 AM and 5:03 AM
    • The new first trip from Hicksville to RFM, Mineola, and Jamaica will now depart at 5:04 AM 
  • Saturdays: AM service will operate every 40-53 minutes instead of every 30-37 minutes
  • Saturdays: Service departing Hicksville 9:14 AM to 2:44 PM will operate every 30 minutes instead of every 22-25 minutes
  • Saturdays: Service departing Jamaica from 9:30 AM to 4:30 PM will operate every 30 minutes instead of every 20-25 minutes
  • Saturdays: The 4:25 PM trip from Jamaica to Roosevelt Field will now depart at 4:30 PM, and will operate to Hicksville
  • Saturdays: The 9:13 PM trip from Hicksville to RFM, Mineola, and Jamaica will be split into an 8:52 PM trip and 9:24 PM trip
  • Saturdays: The 10:50 PM trip from Jamaica to Hicksville will be split into an 10:30 PM trip and 11:00 PM trip
  • Saturdays: The 12:35 AM trip from Jamaica to Hicksville will now depart at 12:30 AM, and will no longer run east of RFM 
  • Sundays: Early AM service will operate every ~30 minutes instead of every 15-25 minutes
  • Sundays: The 4:29 AM, 4:49 AM, and 5:13 AM trips from Hicksville to RFM, Mineola, and Jamaica will now originate at Mineola at 4:41 AM, 5:06 AM, and 5:42 AM respectively
  • Sundays: The 9:20 PM trip from Jamaica to RFM will be discontinued
  • Sundays: The 9:40 PM, 10:40 PM, and 11:40 PM trips from Jamaica to Mineola & Points East will now depart at 10:00 PM, 11:00 PM, and 12:00 AM respectively
  • Sundays: The 11:00 PM and 12:00 AM trips will not continued past Mineola, ending service east of Hicksville by 1 hour 40 minutes earlier

n22 (Mineola to Jamaica Portion) - Weekend Service Reductions

  • Saturdays: AM service from Mineola departing between 4:00 AM and 8:00 AM will operate every 20-30 minutes instead of every 15-20 minutes
  • Saturdays: Service departing Mineola 9:00 AM to 3:30 PM will operate every 30 minutes instead of every 22-25 minutes
  • Saturdays: Service departing Jamaica from 9:30 AM to 4:30 PM will operate every 30 minutes instead of every 20-25 minutes
  • Saturdays: The 4:25 PM trip from Jamaica to Roosevelt Field will now depart at 4:30 PM, and will operate to Hicksville
  • Saturdays: The 9:48 PM trip from Mineola to Jamaica will be split into an 9:27 PM trip and 9:57 PM trip
  • Saturdays: The 10:50 PM trip from Jamaica to Hicksville will be split into an 10:30 PM trip and 11:00 PM trip
  • Saturdays: The 12:35 AM trip from Jamaica to Hicksville will now depart at 12:30 AM, and will no longer run east of RFM 
  • Sundays: Early AM service will operate every ~30 minutes instead of every 15-25 minutes
  • Sundays: The 9:20 PM trip from Jamaica to RFM will be discontinued
  • Sundays: The 9:40 PM, 10:40 PM, and 11:40 PM trips from Jamaica to Mineola & Points East will now depart at 10:00 PM, 11:00 PM, and 12:00 AM respectively
  • Sundays: The 11:00 PM and 12:00 AM trips will not continued past Mineola, ending service east of Hicksville by 1 hour 40 minutes earlier

n23 Net Service Reductions

  • Weekdays: Daytime departures will be shifted by up to 15 minutes later
  • Weekdays: The 9:30 AM and 1:35 PM trips from Mineola will be discontinued
  • Weekdays: The 10:00 AM and 10:30 AM trips from Manorhaven will be consolidated into a 10:16 AM
  • Weekdays: The 2:35 PM trip from Manorhaven will be discontinued

n24 (Hicksville to Roosevelt Field Portion) - Rush Hour Reductions, Midday Buses No Longer Coordinated, Evening Service Improvements, Weekend Adjustments

  • Weekdays: The 6:54 AM and 4:54 PM trips from Hicksville to RFM will be discontinued
  • Weekdays: The 6:27 AM and 7:00 AM trips from RFM to Hicksville will be discontinued
  • Weekdays: A 6:45 AM trip from RFM to Hicksville will be added
  • Midday buses from RFM after 12 PM are no longer coordinated with buses coming from Jamaica, buses depart minutes before bus from Jamaica arrives
  • Weekdays: Trips after 5:30 PM from Hicksville to RFM will depart as follows (+5 trips)
    • OLD: 5:41 PM, 6:05 PM, 6:31 PM, 7:12 PM, 8:19 PM, 9:49 PM
    • NEW: 5:39 PM, 6:18 PM, 6:53 PM, 7:25 PM, 7:50 PM, 8:19 PM, 8:47 PM, 9:10 PM, 9:38 PM, 9:59 PM, 10:25 PM
  • Weekdays: Trips between 7:00 PM - 10:00 PM departing Roosevelt Field will operate every 25-30 minutes instead of every 36-47 minutes
  • Saturdays: A 9:35 AM trip from RFM towards Jamaica will now originate in Hicksville, at 9:05 AM
  • Saturdays: Service departing Hicksville from 1:00 PM - 3:00 PM will operate every 60 minutes instead of roughly every 30 minutes
  • Saturdays: Service departing Hicksville from 4:00 PM - 6:00 PM will operate every 30 minutes instead of every 60 minutes
  • Saturdays: Service departing Roosevelt Field Mall from 10:00 AM to 4:00 PM will operate every 60-65 minutes instead of every 70-75 minutes
  • Saturdays: An additional evening trip to Hicksville will be added from 7:30 PM to 9:00 PM
  • Saturdays: Evening trip times will shift by up to 15 minutes later
  • Sundays: The 8:15 AM trip from Jamaica to RFM will now depart at 8:18 AM, and operate all the way to Hicksville

n24 (Roosevelt Field to Jamaica) - Rush Hour Reductions, Midday Buses No Longer Coordinated, Evening Service Improvements, Weekend Adjustments

  • Midday buses arriving RFM after 12 PM are no longer coordinated with buses coming going to Hicksville, buses depart minutes before bus from Jamaica arrives
  • Saturdays: Trips departing Roosevelt Field Mall from 4:30 AM - 8:00 AM will depart every 30-33 minutes instead of every 25 minutes
  • Saturdays: The 9:35 AM trip from RFM towards Jamaica will now originate in Hicksville, at 9:05 AM
  • Saturdays: Service departing Hicksville from 4:00 PM - 6:00 PM will operate every 30 minutes instead of every 60 minutes
  • Saturdays: Service departing Jamaica from 8:40 AM to 7:45 PM will operate every 30 minutes instead of every 35 minutes
  • Saturdays: The 6:51 PM departure from RFM to Jamaica will be discontinued
  • Saturdays: The 8:10 PM departure from Jamaica to RFM will be discontinued
  • Saturdays: Service departing Jamaica from 7:45 PM to 9:45 PM will operate every 60 minutes instead of every 40 minutes
  • Saturdays: Evening trip times will shift by up to 15 minutes later
  • Sundays: Early AM trip times (before 8 AM) will be shifted by up to 20 minutes later
  • Sundays: The 8:15 AM trip from Jamaica to RFM will now depart at 8:18 AM, and operate all the way to Hicksville
  • Sundays: The 6:44 PM trip from RFM to Jamaica will be discontinued
  • Sundays: Service from Jamaica between 7:15 PM and 9:30 PM will depart every 60 minutes instead of every 40 minutes
  • Sundays: Late Afternoon & Evening times will be shifted by up to 20 minutes

n25 - Weekday Rush Hour Service Reductions

  • One less trip will be provided from 7:00 AM - 8:00 AM from Lynbrook, and from 8:45 AM - 9:45 AM from Great Neck
  • The 4:15 PM and 4:37 PM trips from Lynbrook will be consolidated into a 4:25 PM trip

n26 - Net Service Reductions, AM Service Span Decrease, PM Service Span Increase

  • AM trip times will be shifted by up to 15 minutes later
  • PM trip times will be shifted by up to 11 minutes earlier
  • The 9:56 AM trip from Jamaica to Great Neck will be discontinued
  • PM service from Great Neck from 3:00 PM - 4:00 PM will operate every 30 minutes instead of every 20 minutes
  • An new later trip departing Great Neck to Jamaica will depart at 6:02 PM (instead of the last bus at 5:43 PM)

n27 - Service Reduction South Of Roosevelt Field, Service Increase North of Roosevelt Field and to 60 Charles Lindbergh 

  • Two new trips from Roosevelt Field Mall (RFM) to Glen Cove will be added at 6:45 AM and 8:45 AM
  • The 7:24 AM trip from Hempstead to Glen Cove will now originate at RFM at 7:40 AM
  • Two new trips from Glen Cove to RFM will be added at 8:52 AM & 9:50 AM
  • The last bus to Glen Cove serving 60 Charles Lindbergh from Hempstead will now be at 5:27 PM instead of 4:38 PM 
  • The 3:22 PM and 3:54 trips from Hempstead to Glen Cove will now originate at RFM at 3:35 PM and 4:25 PM, respectively
  • An additional trip will be added from Glen Cove towards RFM departing at 5:41 PM
  • Trips departing Glen Cove after 10 AM will now depart up 25 minutes earlier
  • Trips departing Hempstead after 4 PM will now depart up to 19 minutes earlier

n48/n49 - Net Weekday and Sunday Service Reductions, Saturday Schedule Adjustments

  • Weekdays: Combined service will operate every 30 minutes instead of every 20-25 minutes during rush hours (individual n48/n49 segments are double the combined headway)
  • Weekdays: Combined service will operate every 30 minutes instead of every 35 minutes during middays (individual n48/n49 segments are double the combined headway)
  • Weekdays: Service after 10 PM departing Hicksville will operate every 60 minutes instead of every 30 minutes
  • Saturdays: Service before 7 PM will operate up to 15 minutes earlier
  • Saturdays: Service after 7 PM will operate up to 27 minutes later (towards Hempstead), 10 minutes earlier (towards Hicksville)
  • Sundays: Service will operate every 60 minutes instead of every 50-52 minutes, departing Hicksville at :00, and Hempstead at :15 until 5 PM, :22 from 5-9 PM, and 9:27 PM

n54/n55 - Weekday Service Improvements, Saturday Service Cuts, Sunday Service Span Increase

  • Weekdays: Combined Midday service will operate every 30 minutes throughout instead of every 60 minutes (38-45 minutes on the shoulder periods)
  • Weekdays: Combined service will now operate every 30 minutes instead of every 40-51 minutes from 6:15 PM - 8:45 PM (from Hempstead) / 8:00 PM - 10:00 PM (from Sunrise Mall)
  • Weekdays: Evening times will be shifted by up to 20 minutes
  • Saturdays: Combined service will now operate every 45 minutes instead of every 40 minutes from 9:00 AM - 7:00 PM (from Hempstead) / 11:00 AM - 8:00 PM (from Sunrise Mall)
    • Individual segment see half the frequency
  • Saturdays: Combined service will now operate every 60 minutes instead of every 50 minutes after 7:00 PM (from Hempstead) / 8:00 PM (from Sunrise Mall)
    • Buses do not alternate evenly during this time, check timetable for new times on each individual segment
  • Sundays: The first buses out of Hempstead and Sunrise Mall will now be at 7:00 AM and 8:00 AM respectively (60 minutes and 55 minutes earlier than existing service, respectively)

n58 - Weekday AM Service Reduction

  • Trip times will be modified by up to 10 minutes
  • The 8:42 AM trip and 9:00 AM trips from Great Neck will be consolidated into a 8:53 AM trip
  • The 9:15 AM and 9:33 AM trips from the Marine Academy will be consolidated into a 9:24 AM trip

n70/n71/n72 - Weekday Service Reductions

  • Weekday Trip times will be shifted by up to 10 minutes
  • Weekdays: The 9:06 AM and 9:17 AM n70 trips to Farmingdale State College will be consolidated into a 9:10 AM trip
  • Weekdays: The 10:13 AM n70 trip to Hempstead will be discontinued
  • Weekdays: The 1:59 PM and 2:14 PM n70 trips to Farmingdale State College will be consolidated into a 2:06 PM trip
  • Weekdays: The 3:28 PM n70 trip to Hempstead will be discontinued
  • Weekdays: The 4:19 PM and 4:34 PM n70 trips to Farmingdale State College will be consolidated into a 4:29 PM trip
  • Weekdays: The 5:09 PM and 5:18 PM n70 trip to Hempstead will be consolidated into a 5:15 PM trip
  • Saturdays: The 4:38 PM n72 trip to Route 110 will be converted into an n71 trip to Sunrise Mall depart at 4:41 PM
  • Saturdays: The 5:53 PM n72 trip from Route 110 to Hempstead will now be an n71 trip to Hempstead departing Sunrise Mall at 5:48 PM
  • Trip Times have changed on weekends by up to 20 minutes
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- I never got the sense those n24 segments were ever coordinated to begin with, TBH.....

- Don't see much of a point to have n6X's serve UBS Arena... Needless to say, those buses sure get stuck in that traffic though... smfh...

- Thought all that construction around Far Rockaway was been finished & done with... News to me that it's still ongoing.

- They may as well have the n78/79/80 share the same stop at LIRR Hicksville (current n80 stop); they all run like hot garbage anyway... Have the n24 do its first WB pickup at the same stop the n22 does & call it a day (which used to be the case; IDK why they pushed the n24 back with the n78/n79 in the first place - I believe that was done when they segmented the n24).... Four separate bus stops (n20H stop, n22 first pickup stop (shared with the n48/49 dual purpose stop), n24 first pickup stop (shared with the n78/79 first pickup stop), then the n80 stop in question) for the differing bus routes on that same side of the street, in that close a proximity is just plain crazy to begin with.... Never cared for that particular setup....

- It may not be for the Winter changes, but rest assured, the n16 is either going to go back to terminating at RFM full time, or they are going to cut an assload of trips from terminating at NCC, to terminating at RFM.... The n16 b/w NCC & RFM is giving me old n24 b/w RFM & RxR plaza vibes....

- The n27 is a shell of its former self... I'm not sure what can be done to save the thing, but [extra service b/w RFM & Glen Cove] & [having 1 later trip serve 60 Charles Lindbergh (about time they addressed this btw)] isn't going to be enough... Even restoring weekend service won't be enough at this point.... I remember when those first two AM trips out of HTC (weekdays) used to be sardine cans leaving Hempstead... Now, not even close.... Most n27 usage during the midday hours is actually b/w Glen Cove & Greenvale {Northern Blvd} now; it used to be the opposite (as in, b/w Greenvale & Hempstead)....

- This is going to be the unpopular opinion, but there is (still) way too much n70 service running to the college (referring to Farmingdale)... Since they're still hanging onto the n72 notation for short turns to Conklin/110, they may as well have most the current n70's signed up as n72's, with a limited/select amount of n70's running to/from the college... You would actually benefit more Nassau patrons turning the n70 DOWN rt. 110 to Republic Plaza, as opposed to up rt. 110 to the college.... To think that the n70 to Farmingdale State Coll. is almost as useless now, as the N70/n70 used to be when it went to the Newsday facility....

As far as converting n72 trips to n71 trips, just what is going on at Sunrise Mall (or anywhere else along/around the unique portion of the n71, for the matter) all of a sudden to support such a move (which is essentially an extension, if you compare the distances of the n71 & the n72)? Because AFAIK, Sunrise has been dying a slow death for literally years now..... I get that Farmingdale itself is relatively quiet on weekends, but to convert those trips to n71's to me seem like a waste...

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On 12/16/2021 at 12:07 AM, User said:

There was some conversation behind this during the last public meeting. The accusation was that buses in the current n24/n78/n79 bus stop under the tracks were blocking a lane of traffic while they were there and it was disruptive to traffic on Newbridge Rd. One of the members of the panel raised this and suggested that there needs to be some sort of a dedicated area for buses.

While some sort of centralized area for buses around LIRR Hicksville would be beneficial (although I won't hold my breath for it), there are motorists that drop off loved ones and/or friends at the RR station about a couple yards behind (as in, south of) that very bus stop in question... I've seen it myself on multiple occasions throughout the course of, life, & some of the times, they block incoming buses pulling up to the stop, on top of it..... But of course, it's far easier to solely pin the problem on public buses....

On 10/15/2021 at 1:16 AM, Mtatransit said:

They also cut some trips at night. Essentially there is less service now on the n40/41 than the old n40 and the n41.

Interestingly enough, I'm noticing less buses signed up as "n40/41" & more buses going back to being signed up as "n40"... It's not coincidence that multiple b/o's are making that a habit either/all of a sudden <_<:lol:

On 10/15/2021 at 1:16 AM, Mtatransit said:

There really is no point in having an n41 and n72 label at this point. These routes are essentially dead: planning wise.

At Mineola at least, from what I notice, nobody really says "n41", or "the 41", or anything of the sort... Same goes for "n40, n41", or "n40, 41", or anything or the sort.... Shit, the b/o's themselves say "the n40" or "the 40", etc. when answering a passenger's question{s}....

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20 hours ago, N6 Limited said:

They haven't given an official reason, but it provides more service to the Arena.

I understand that it provides more service to the arena... What I'm essentially questioning is how many fans are really taking buses there (from either end of the route).... That's why I said I don't see a point in having the thing (n6x) stop there....

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The employees of the arena like the people who work the concession stands, etc might find the N6X stopping there useful.

 

Yankee Stadium and Citifield misc workers have similar demographics to NICE Bus ridership. I think we can all agree fans of the events that will be held at the arena won't be taking NICE Bus there lol

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12 hours ago, Lex said:

Then just have the local stop there and call it a day.

Maybe the idea is that if the local is delayed but the express is running, they can still make their shifts.

 

13 hours ago, B35 via Church said:

I understand that it provides more service to the arena... What I'm essentially questioning is how many fans are really taking buses there (from either end of the route).... That's why I said I don't see a point in having the thing (n6x) stop there....

Why is it so important to assume only fans and not employees?

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10 hours ago, Gotham Bus Co. said:

Why is it so important to assume only fans and not employees?

What difference would it make? I could make the same argument taking the word "fans" out of that statement & replacing it with the word "employees" instead..... Spare me with this whole trying to convey that there are so many, or as many employees that would take n6x's in particular to that arena, worth having those buses stop there....

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On 12/28/2021 at 9:20 PM, B35 via Church said:

I understand that it provides more service to the arena... What I'm essentially questioning is how many fans are really taking buses there (from either end of the route).... That's why I said I don't see a point in having the thing (n6x) stop there....

To be honest, I don't think a stop there would hurt. While it won't be carrying a busloads of crowds from either Jamaica or Hempstead, a small portion of the arena bound passengers  may opt to use it.

Personally I believe the ridership specifically for the Arena will be heavier coming to/from Jamaica.

The secondary and imo the main ridership most likely will be those who will opt take NICE bus to the city line, as a faster way rather than taking the NYCT. So essentially its may siphon some ridership away from NYCT, although the stop location is bad compared to the other city line locations on other NICE routes (with CIP bisecting the border and all that).

 

That being said NICE is so optimistic in the ridership projections that they are offering a free shuttle from the n6 stop to the Belmont Park LIRR. Obviously catered towards the fans and not employees in this case... 

https://www.nicebus.com/Passenger-Information/UBS-Arena

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58 minutes ago, checkmatechamp13 said:

In other words, they can take the limited if it shows up first, since it now stops there.

That would require people to be in reasonably close proximity to one of those stops and for a theoretical delay to only affect the local (which I seriously doubt, considering where the route goes).

Besides, for all this effort, why not try to do something with the n1? It's basically left to rot outside of the peaks, while having a terminus around the UBS Arena would maybe give it a shot at being somewhat useful. (I also got an idea just now, but aside from clearly being something I pulled out of my ass while doing something that doesn't help, it really doesn't fit here.)

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