Blitz Posted April 28, 2012 Share #126 Posted April 28, 2012 Not even worth spending the Gs on a bus only lane there. Folks would still use that lane nonetheless. i would usually say the same thing but if they pick up the enforcement and use camera cars along with the buses and overhead cameras they would at least get paid by people violating the lane rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted April 28, 2012 Share #127 Posted April 28, 2012 Speaking of tourist line M60, during Green Festival and other show events at Javits Center, M34/M34A B/O had hard time because of newcomers and tourists who did not know how to use SBS Machine. 34th Street Bus is another home line for tourists daily. When B/O ask them to paid at machine, some tourists just gave up and walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngblaze Posted April 28, 2012 Share #128 Posted April 28, 2012 Not even worth spending the Gs on a bus only lane there. Folks would still use that lane nonetheless. ahhh reminds me of Fordham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted April 29, 2012 Share #129 Posted April 29, 2012 i would usually say the same thing but if they pick up the enforcement and use camera cars along with the buses and overhead cameras they would at least get paid by people violating the lane rules. Which is true, but they can barely do any enforcement on the SBS lines as it is. The front cameras by the windshield though, that actually helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prgordo Posted May 23, 2012 Share #130 Posted May 23, 2012 They have added runs and They are gonna make it an all Artic line please be patient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtatransit Posted May 25, 2012 Share #131 Posted May 25, 2012 To me in Queens bus is ok. But they needed bus lanes in 125 street. I need to wait 17 Min from Park Av to 2 av. The traffic is bad there. For SBS It may be a good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted May 29, 2012 Share #132 Posted May 29, 2012 To fix the M60 would call for the elimination of local stops that are not near train stations. Than implement a type of "pay before you board" system similar to SBS. Finally, move the route to tuskegee Airmen depot and make it majority artic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
error46146 Posted May 29, 2012 Share #133 Posted May 29, 2012 M60 would definitely benefit from some kind of limited-stop or Select Bus service, minus the depot move to 100 St depot unless if you want buses breaking down in the middle of the triboro lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted May 29, 2012 Share #134 Posted May 29, 2012 Well I didn't want to bring that aspect into equation yet but im not gonna deny that 100st is very similar to Bronx division depot. Although I really don't know how those hybrids are doing since the got over there. I just know that they roll through here every couple of weeks because TAD doesn't have battery conditioners yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted May 29, 2012 Share #135 Posted May 29, 2012 Well I didn't want to bring that aspect into equation yet but im not gonna deny that 100st is very similar to Bronx division depot. Although I really don't know how those hybrids are doing since the got over there. I just know that they roll through here every couple of weeks because TAD doesn't have battery conditioners yet... The hybrids are doing alright mainly because they've got so many of them -- they can run the M96/M106 with a good six-seven buses in the shop during peak hours and even a loaner or two out at Mannyville on a good day. The D60HFs it's a different story, and the consistent breakdowns tell you what maintenance is really like over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RookiePhenom Posted June 4, 2012 Share #136 Posted June 4, 2012 As a tourist who've flown into LGA a bunch of times, and had to endure a long route to the Upper West Side through the M60, you'd have to do one of two things: 1. Make the route an SBS because the route makes a bunch of stops, some are rather unnecessary, and the crush-loads (after the airport) along with the suitcases make the route potentially uncomfortable 2. Use artics. As much as I like the O7's on that route, it would help with congestion and the crush loading. 3. Change it to a Limited and have posted stops along Broadway and 125. 4. Permute and do 2 and 3. Faster boarding plus longer vehicles might help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted June 4, 2012 Share #137 Posted June 4, 2012 TBH, I think that passengers on the only direct link between LGA and Manhattan shouldn't need to have to deal with locals, and vice versa. Therefore IMHO the M60 should make no stops in Queens outside the airport, at least on weekdays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted June 4, 2012 Share #138 Posted June 4, 2012 TBH, I think that passengers on the only direct link between LGA and Manhattan shouldn't need to have to deal with locals, and vice versa. Therefore IMHO the M60 should make no stops in Queens outside the airport, at least on weekdays. To fix the M60 would call for the elimination of local stops that are not near train stations. Than implement a type of "pay before you board" system similar to SBS. Finally, move the route to tuskegee Airmen depot and make it majority artic... Or we can reroute half of all trips between 5am and 9 PM to go non-stop between LGA and astoria with some 23rd ave stops but NO astoria blvd stops. This will not hurt anyone as the few on astoria blvd still have 14 min service and maybe less bunching as a result of GCP expresses. As a tourist who've flown into LGA a bunch of times, and had to endure a long route to the Upper West Side through the M60, you'd have to do one of two things: 1. Make the route an SBS because the route makes a bunch of stops, some are rather unnecessary, and the crush-loads (after the airport) along with the suitcases make the route potentially uncomfortable 2. Use artics. As much as I like the O7's on that route, it would help with congestion and the crush loading. 3. Change it to a Limited and have posted stops along Broadway and 125. 4. Permute and do 2 and 3. Faster boarding plus longer vehicles might help. According to a bus OP it's already being done as we speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q19Astoria21St Posted June 8, 2012 Share #139 Posted June 8, 2012 Few Weeks Ago I Was Waitin Almost a Hour n a Half For A M60, But It's a good thing there Already Puttin Novabus LFS Articulated buses on the line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted June 8, 2012 Share #140 Posted June 8, 2012 you are just unlucky but letting some recover time on gct would allow better service inbound. outbound Another manhattan line can help M116 or M96 via FDR to RFK bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted June 9, 2012 Share #141 Posted June 9, 2012 Too many people get on in Queens outside LGA on the M60 for it to run non-stop. What they should have if you ask me is a separate "M60x" that would run non-stop from LGA to Manhattan, and have the M60 ln its current form in addition, and possibly not run the M60x late nights and MAYBE weekends if ridership is low. Artics should be running the M60x, and 40-footers and maybe some artics on the local. Both would get great ridership I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted June 9, 2012 Share #142 Posted June 9, 2012 what I meant was select M60 trips becoming x trips between 5am and 9 pm when LGA has scheduled flights. its only a slight service change most ppl on astoria blvd excluding wait for buses to bunch. So having M60 run non stop to lga and stops on 23rd from the subway run every 14 mins. while locals are every 14 mins many express runs may become local after reaching LGA for going back and vice versa this somewhat improves reliability. so instead or 3 M60s on astoria blvd 1 or em goes non stop to LGA the other 2 or 1 pick up the slack. This better handles the loads. Funny I used M60 you seem to overestimate astoria blvd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mta bus 5102 Posted June 11, 2012 Share #143 Posted June 11, 2012 NovaLFS Artic Bus # 1283 Hit 56 mph on the RFK on the M60 to laguardia, Dusting Orion 7 NG # 3895 By Long Shot!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted July 15, 2012 Share #144 Posted July 15, 2012 Had 3882 on the M60 today, man does that route need artics. Probably the most packed bus I've ever been on, people were very angry about those luggage racks taking up four seats with no bags on them. The fact it took 45 minutes to get from the West Side to the East Side made people a little angrier too, but that's the traffic for you. Poor bus was dying on the RFK, making every sort of moaning noise trying to keep the pace on that bridge while packed completely. Those late 3870-3890s are gonna have a shorter life span than the rest of the fleet, I guarantee it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted July 15, 2012 Share #145 Posted July 15, 2012 Had 3882 on the M60 today, man does that route need artics. Probably the most packed bus I've ever been on, people were very angry about those luggage racks taking up four seats with no bags on them. The fact it took 45 minutes to get from the West Side to the East Side made people a little angrier too, but that's the traffic for you. Poor bus was dying on the RFK, making every sort of moaning noise trying to keep the pace on that bridge while packed completely. Those late 3870-3890s are gonna have a shorter life span than the rest of the fleet, I guarantee it. So they're not using all artics on that line yet? I've seen some along 125th street when passing on the express bus and thought they were finally no longer using the hybrids... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted July 15, 2012 Share #146 Posted July 15, 2012 Nowhere near. I only saw two artics on the line all day today, the rest were NGs. LFSA passed me on the friggin' M35, I'm thinking really, they get an artic with a free ride and we're all squished in here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prgordo Posted July 15, 2012 Share #147 Posted July 15, 2012 I had an Artic today I prefer the Hybrid but the hawks are usually artics cause of heavy loads in mdidle of night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted July 15, 2012 Share #148 Posted July 15, 2012 So they're not using all artics on that line yet? I've seen some along 125th street when passing on the express bus and thought they were finally no longer using the hybrids... We don't have enough LFSA's for it to be an all artic route yet. And for some reason, they don't like running D60's to the airport so that route is gonna be crammed into those NG's until the fall... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted July 16, 2012 Share #149 Posted July 16, 2012 We don't have enough LFSA's for it to be an all artic route yet. And for some reason, they don't like running D60's to the airport so that route is gonna be crammed into those NG's until the fall... Wonder if they're concerned about breakdowns... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngblaze Posted July 16, 2012 Share #150 Posted July 16, 2012 Wonder if they're concerned about breakdowns... I would think it mostly has to do with the fact that they are high floor buses and the dwell time would increase significantly being that quite a few passengers would be boarding and alighting the bus with luggage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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