Far Rock Depot Posted November 9, 2012 Share #801 Posted November 9, 2012 I'm curious as to how the Rockaway shuttle will run with no power in the Rockaways yet. As to how they will be maintained? Well I'm assuming that might explain 20 cars: 3 sets of four for service with 2 sets of four for spares. I'll be going down there tomorrow till sunday so ill check stuff out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted November 9, 2012 Share #802 Posted November 9, 2012 I'm curious as to how the Rockaway shuttle will run with no power in the Rockaways yet. As to how they will be maintained? Well I'm assuming that might explain 20 cars: 3 sets of four for service with 2 sets of four for spares. I'll be going down there tomorrow till sunday so ill check stuff out. so far theres like 5 cars, might be 6 to 8 cars now since they moved more this morning, they will mostlikely run 6-8 car trains with the rest being spares, 6 cars might work thats like 4 75 footers anyway as for the , im not trying to sound like a foamer but they can extend the or the to forest hills, whats the point of running the in 2 sections if the tube is nearly damaged, have the only run between jay st and 95th st, astoria can deal with 1 line for the time being, it sucks having the go only to 34th, it pointless for some people who have to go further down below 34th st, plus the is only going to 59th st and 4th ave anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dj Hammers Posted November 9, 2012 Share #803 Posted November 9, 2012 so far theres like 5 cars, might be 6 to 8 cars now since they moved more this morning, they will mostlikely run 6-8 car trains with the rest being spares, 6 cars might work thats like 4 75 footers anyway as for the , im not trying to sound like a foamer but they can extend the or the to forest hills, whats the point of running the in 2 sections if the tube is nearly damaged, have the only run between jay st and 95th st, astoria can deal with 1 line for the time being, it sucks having the go only to 34th, it pointless for some people who have to go further down below 34th st, plus the is only going to 59th st and 4th ave anyway Are you sure theres only 5 cars at the Rockaways now? That would entail is transfer rate of one car per day... far too slow to coincide with the start of shuttle bus service on sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan05979 Posted November 9, 2012 Share #804 Posted November 9, 2012 so far theres like 5 cars, might be 6 to 8 cars now since they moved more this morning, they will mostlikely run 6-8 car trains with the rest being spares, 6 cars might work thats like 4 75 footers anyway as for the , im not trying to sound like a foamer but they can extend the or the to forest hills, whats the point of running the in 2 sections if the tube is nearly damaged, have the only run between jay st and 95th st, astoria can deal with 1 line for the time being, it sucks having the go only to 34th, it pointless for some people who have to go further down below 34th st, plus the is only going to 59th st and 4th ave anyway Because what do you do with the crews who have jobs out of 71? let them sit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted November 9, 2012 Share #805 Posted November 9, 2012 Are you sure theres only 5 cars at the Rockaways now? That would entail is transfer rate of one car per day... far too slow to coincide with the start of shuttle bus service on sunday. i said 6-8 should be there now, they didn't move anything on wendsday-thursday because of the storm, its about 2-3 hours per car @ dan, they can use em on the or 's as extras, they have done it before in 2001 and in 2002 when the ran on QB for a GO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M31clinton Posted November 9, 2012 Share #806 Posted November 9, 2012 Why do you have such a problem with the R running in 2 sections? Your awful ideas would 1 confuse riders, 2 cut service to the busy Astoria line. Lot of Queens R riders get off between Lex/59 and 34 St so it's not pointless to run it to 34. You obviously have no idea of the ridership pattns along N,R,Q. so far theres like 5 cars, might be 6 to 8 cars now since they moved more this morning, they will mostlikely run 6-8 car trains with the rest being spares, 6 cars might work thats like 4 75 footers anyway as for the , im not trying to sound like a foamer but they can extend the or the to forest hills, whats the point of running the in 2 sections if the tube is nearly damaged, have the only run between jay st and 95th st, astoria can deal with 1 line for the time being, it sucks having the go only to 34th, it pointless for some people who have to go further down below 34th st, plus the is only going to 59th st and 4th ave anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjbr40 Posted November 9, 2012 Share #807 Posted November 9, 2012 to those train discussion, you need to zip it up.(not mad at you) Governor Cuomo said that the will return to Coney Island real soon. He also said will return to Rockaway by Sunday as well. This was said in his latest press conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak7 Posted November 9, 2012 Share #808 Posted November 9, 2012 The Governor's plan calls for to Howard Beach and buses from there to Far Rock on Sunday. No mention of the shuttle train at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan05979 Posted November 9, 2012 Share #809 Posted November 9, 2012 i said 6-8 should be there now, they didn't move anything on wendsday-thursday because of the storm, its about 2-3 hours per car @ dan, they can use em on the or 's as extras, they have done it before in 2001 and in 2002 when the ran on QB for a GO thats not going to work, then you have 10,000 crews and 20 trains. A giant mess, trust me I was going thru it for the past 2 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interested Rider Posted November 9, 2012 Share #810 Posted November 9, 2012 As per MTA info 11/09/12 at 6:05 PM: N service has resumed between 59th Street (Brooklyn) and Coney Island (Stillwell Avenue) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted November 9, 2012 Share #811 Posted November 9, 2012 But unless the express buses were reduced fare, most people would not be taking them because it's double the cost even though it would be more convenient. I don't think the extended hours for express buses would be the answer. Sure now you might get some more demand, but I don't see that large of an increase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted November 9, 2012 Share #812 Posted November 9, 2012 I know it's more $$$ but why is no one suggesting the LIRR Far Rockaway branch instead? I know it mainly a connection to Downtown Brooklyn via Atlantic Terminal and also Mid Manhattan via Penn Station? For some in the Far Rock area it the fastest alternative for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted November 9, 2012 Share #813 Posted November 9, 2012 I know it's more $$$ but why is no one suggesting the LIRR Far Rockaway branch instead? I know it mainly a connection to Downtown Brooklyn via Atlantic Terminal and also Mid Manhattan via Penn Station? For some in the Far Rock area it the fastest alternative for now. Someone said that the current LIRR stops aren't that well used?? In any event, if it doesn't take forever to get it up and running I say sure why not?? Quite frankly the transportation options suck down there. I mean having to depend on the as your only alternative is just horrible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted November 10, 2012 Share #814 Posted November 10, 2012 No mention of the running to 71 tomorrow on MTA.info, in fact it says the is back to its "normal service schedule" so will it still run this weekend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4 Via Merrick Rd Posted November 10, 2012 Share #815 Posted November 10, 2012 I know it's more $$$ but why is no one suggesting the LIRR Far Rockaway branch instead? I know it mainly a connection to Downtown Brooklyn via Atlantic Terminal and also Mid Manhattan via Penn Station? For some in the Far Rock area it the fastest alternative for now. Yea Ima pay 7.25 to ride the train to Far Rockaway when I can simply pay 2.25 for the bus or smh. Not to mention you have to thru Nassau and then back into Queens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted November 10, 2012 Share #816 Posted November 10, 2012 Yea Ima pay 7.25 to ride the train to Far Rockaway when I can simply pay 2.25 for the bus or smh. Not to mention you have to thru Nassau and then back into Queens I not sure where you live in Far Rock but if you going towards Atlantic Terminal or Mid Manhattan it still will be faster than the Rockaway/Shuttle Bus/Lefferts-207th . I said if you could afford it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4 Via Merrick Rd Posted November 10, 2012 Share #817 Posted November 10, 2012 I not sure where you live in Far Rock but if you going towards Atlantic Terminal or Mid Manhattan it still will be faster than the Rockaway/Shuttle Bus/Lefferts-207th . I said if you could afford it. FYI I dont live in Far Rockaway and plus I'd rather just take the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lance Posted November 10, 2012 Share #818 Posted November 10, 2012 Presumably, it's back to normal weekend service for the M. The L is back to running its full route, so there wouldn't be any reason for an extended M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted November 10, 2012 Share #819 Posted November 10, 2012 FYI I dont live in Far Rockaway and plus I'd rather just take the . Why be so defensive N4? My comments was about other riders in general who needs an alternative to the Train in the Rockaways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R10 2952 Posted November 10, 2012 Share #820 Posted November 10, 2012 The least the MTA could do is try to give people a ballpark figure of when the Far Rockaway-Rockaway Park shuttle will be running. I guess from what other are saying, it'll probably be ten days or something before that happens, but hey, that's classic style, isn't it. At least they'll running the to Howard Beach again soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4 Via Merrick Rd Posted November 10, 2012 Share #821 Posted November 10, 2012 Why be so defensive N4? My comments was about other riders in general who needs an alternative to the Train in the Rockaways. I'm just saying that I would rather use the bus or the i was simply stating that I don't live in Far Rockaway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY1635 Posted November 10, 2012 Share #822 Posted November 10, 2012 I know it's more $$$ but why is no one suggesting the LIRR Far Rockaway branch instead? I know it mainly a connection to Downtown Brooklyn via Atlantic Terminal and also Mid Manhattan via Penn Station? For some in the Far Rock area it the fastest alternative for now. People living in the Rockaways either take the Shuttle bus to Howard Beach, or the Q113 from Mott Avenue to Jamaica and transfer for the E or the F because it's cheaper than taking the LIRR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted November 10, 2012 Share #823 Posted November 10, 2012 Someone said that the current LIRR stops aren't that well used?? In any event, if it doesn't take forever to get it up and running I say sure why not?? Quite frankly the transportation options suck down there. I mean having to depend on the as your only alternative is just horrible... There's only one stop at Far Rockaway. As for not being used, the reason is because the is normally running. Now the isn't running, so that stop will likely see some increase in usage. How much? I don't know. Probably not a whole lot because it's all the way at the eastern end of the peninsula, but it will be an increase and somewhat of an alternative. In any case, at the very least, the Q52 should be extended to Far Rockaway rather than ending at Arverne, and there should be some short-turns running from Rockaway Blvd to Far Rockaway. And there should be a little extra Q53 service, though I remember B35 mentioning that most of the people are already on the Q53 because the shuttle is unreliable. For express buses, I do think that they should probably run a little extra service on the QM16/QM17. (I mean, they'll probably have to beef it up a little anyway, from people naturally switching to those lines so they don't have to put up with the transfer). I don't know how much demand there would be for any service outside of rush hour, though. At best, maybe the QM16 should run once an hour off-peak, for those who don't want to put up with the whole transfer at Rockaway Blvd. I don't know if it can be programmed into the farebox to charge a lower fare, but I think it would be fair to charge a lower one to get to the Rockaways (maybe like $4 or $4.50 instead of $5.50), since a lot of those riders are ones who would've taken the if it were running. BTW, is the Q22 running for free? (I know all the other routes are charging, but I remember somebody mentioning that there's still no fare on the Q22) I'm just saying that I would rather use the bus or the i was simply stating that I don't live in Far Rockaway Except that the isn't running and that's why we're having this discussion in the first place. The least the MTA could do is try to give people a ballpark figure of when the Far Rockaway-Rockaway Park shuttle will be running. I guess from what other are saying, it'll probably be ten days or something before that happens, but hey, that's classic style, isn't it. At least they're running the to Howard Beach again. Is it? The map says all trains are running to Lefferts: http://alert.mta.inf...map_bw_Nov9.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R10 2952 Posted November 10, 2012 Share #824 Posted November 10, 2012 Is the M train still running to Manhattan & along Queens Blvd 27/7 until further notice? No, it is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted November 10, 2012 Share #825 Posted November 10, 2012 @checkmatechamp13 He meant that they are at least going to restore service to Howard Beach on the Rockaway branch, he wasn't refering to the Lefferts branch. Yes all of those trains go to Lefferts right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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