alekr Posted November 13, 2012 Share #1 Posted November 13, 2012 Whenever I ride the Q44 I noticed drivers tend to switch with other drivers at Main Street. Why some Q44 runs requires switching drivers? Sometimes doesn't switch driving full route sometimes switching at Main Street. Anybody knows the reason behind this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted November 13, 2012 Share #2 Posted November 13, 2012 Whenever I ride the Q44 I noticed drivers tend to switch with other drivers at Main Street. Why some Q44 runs requires switching drivers? Sometimes doesn't switch driving full route sometimes switching at Main Street. Anybody knows the reason behind this? Relief Operators Thats why you sometimes see that happining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted November 13, 2012 Share #3 Posted November 13, 2012 Whenever I ride the Q44 I noticed drivers tend to switch with other drivers at Main Street. Why some Q44 runs requires switching drivers? Sometimes doesn't switch driving full route sometimes switching at Main Street. Anybody knows the reason behind this? Plus the Q44 is from Casey Stengal Depot which is closest to Main & Roosevelt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted November 13, 2012 Share #4 Posted November 13, 2012 You know it's funny that alekr brought this up. I rarely see this anymore. Back in the old days it was pretty common on some routes. It used to suck too because the relief sometimes wouldn't be ready right away, so you have to sit there and wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alekr Posted November 13, 2012 Author Share #5 Posted November 13, 2012 I'm sorry what is a relief operator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted November 13, 2012 Share #6 Posted November 13, 2012 I'm sorry what is a relief operator? The operators you were asking about (when they switch....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtNovaBusRTS9369 Posted November 13, 2012 Share #7 Posted November 13, 2012 I know there's relief's that occur near the JAM Depot for the Q4, Q5, Q84, Q85 after the driver's shift ends and I believe it still happens. But yeah, reliefs are B/O's whom come in whenever a B/O (that had already been on the road prior) concludes his/her run as assigned. This usually happens near or just not too far off from the respective depot (AFAIK) thus making it easier for relief to take over the position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted November 13, 2012 Share #8 Posted November 13, 2012 Merrick and Liberty to be exact. Q111/113 has a relief point as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nostalgia Posted November 14, 2012 Share #9 Posted November 14, 2012 I'm sorry what is a relief operator? It's not always necessary for an operator to return the bus to the depot at the end of the shift. The operator beginning a shift goes to a "relief" point and takes over the bus. The operator going off shift returns to the depot without a bus. The distrance from the route to the depot determines if an operator has to pull out or bus or can go to a relief point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted November 14, 2012 Share #10 Posted November 14, 2012 Castleton and Jewett also. S46, S53 and S66 have reliefs there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted November 14, 2012 Share #11 Posted November 14, 2012 Yeah Q59 buses also have relief's at GA Depot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted November 14, 2012 Share #12 Posted November 14, 2012 You know it's funny that alekr brought this up. I rarely see this anymore. Back in the old days it was pretty common on some routes. It used to suck too because the relief sometimes wouldn't be ready right away, so you have to sit there and wait. It happens quite a lot on the M60, at 125th Street and 2nd Avenue. Actually, its happened every time I've taken the M60. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted November 14, 2012 Share #13 Posted November 14, 2012 Just to name a couple others, M4 at 135ish and Bway and the M103 at 6th St. Never had an M60 op swap out at 125th and 2nd, for whatever reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peacemak3r Posted November 14, 2012 Share #14 Posted November 14, 2012 They sometimes change them at Avenue U and Ocean Ave with the B49. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotb16 Posted November 14, 2012 Share #15 Posted November 14, 2012 The Bx6 does the same at Southern Blvd and Hunts Point Avenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PATCOman Posted November 14, 2012 Share #16 Posted November 14, 2012 M2 110 Street and Lenox Avenue M3 168 Street and Saint Nicholas M4 133 Street and Broadway M5 135 Street and Broadway M7 and 10 116 Street and 8 Avenue Bx19 Southern Boulevard and Tremont Avenue (145 and Lenox when it was out of MCH) Bx36 Boston Road and Tremont Avenue Bx1 and 2 Grand Concourse and Fordham Road Bx7 Broadway and 218 Street Bx9 225 Street and Broadway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted November 14, 2012 Share #17 Posted November 14, 2012 I've also seen S59 swaps at Yukon. I'm not sure if I've ever seen an S79 get swapped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted November 14, 2012 Share #18 Posted November 14, 2012 How does the original B/O, who is going off duty, get back to the depot to pick up his stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted November 14, 2012 Share #19 Posted November 14, 2012 How does the original B/O, who is going off duty, get back to the depot to pick up his stuff? Goes with a bus operator deadheading back to CS I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted November 14, 2012 Share #20 Posted November 14, 2012 Its pretty much a relay race with a bus. A driver would do a few trips and then stop at a designated area along the line (relief point), so the next driver could take over and finish the trip. Almost all routes have a relief point at one point or another. Here's an example... Driver A is doing the B35. After a few trips, he pulls up to the relief point (in this case, its 39 St & 5 Av) and gets off the bus for his break or to end his shift. While driver A is getting off the bus (the bus is still running and there's people on the bus), driver B comes along and gets on the same bus (either coming off his break or starting his shift), and continues the trip, and the rest of his day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nostalgia Posted November 14, 2012 Share #21 Posted November 14, 2012 These points may be outdated: M15 126 depot M31 York & 92nd M35 2nd Ave & 125t Street M57 B'way & 72nd M9 Union Square M20 41st Street & 7th or 8th Avenues M42 12th Ave & 42nd Street B44 Flatbush & Nostrand Aves B20 ENY depot B82 Rockaway Parkway Subway B64 Ulmer Park Depot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoSpectacular Posted November 14, 2012 Share #22 Posted November 14, 2012 Saves time instead of waiting for another driver and his bus to show up and take over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted November 14, 2012 Share #23 Posted November 14, 2012 I guess you can add B41 at Av P-Flatbush s/b and the Troy-Flatbush stop n/b. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nostalgia Posted November 14, 2012 Share #24 Posted November 14, 2012 I guess you can add B41 at Av P-Flatbush s/b and the Troy-Flatbush stop n/b. Add B41 to Bergen Beach at Av N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeddekalbL Posted November 14, 2012 Share #25 Posted November 14, 2012 i think i asked this question earlier when they relieve does the change happen at the terminal/point or the garage and do they come in a car to the relief spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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