R142A7565 Posted August 17, 2014 Share #4326 Posted August 17, 2014 True.. The only set that is good condition still I know R142A is #7700 - #7810 saying. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R142A7565 Posted August 17, 2014 Share #4327 Posted August 17, 2014 I agree on R142A #7300 series they have brown stuff on interior doors ok.. When Westchester Yard car wash their R142A only they were able to remove brown stuff on interior doors. Because car was dirty.. Westchester Yard did know when there car is dirty .. They have to wash their R142A... Sometimes they did able to remove brown rust too... About the vandalism don't know.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech And Transit Posted August 17, 2014 Share #4328 Posted August 17, 2014 They are not LEDs, Its the plastic that is new and transparent to make the fluorescent lights look like the cool white LED color, If cleaning the light diffusers with a stronger cleaning solution or replacing it with new ones will make the car interior more brighter. I am very sorry to bring this up again but... "These trains are the first E233 series variant to use LED interior lighting." Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E233_series The E233 is a passenger train that is run in Japan, and it's manufactured by Kawasaki. Seeing how this train was manufactured around the same time as the R188s, it's my guess that the R188s DO in fact use LED lighting. I'm only making a guess here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dj Hammers Posted August 17, 2014 Share #4329 Posted August 17, 2014 The E233 is a passenger train that is run in Japan, and it's manufactured by Kawasaki. Seeing how this train was manufactured around the same time as the R188s, it's my guess that the R188s DO in fact use LED lighting. I'm only making a guess here.The MTA wrote the interior lighting spec along with the rest of the spec for the R188, not Kawasaki. Those two trains are mutually exclusive in terms of interior lighting. It is likely that the MTA spec'd florescent lights to maintain a uniform parts supply for the converted and new R188s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech And Transit Posted August 17, 2014 Share #4330 Posted August 17, 2014 So why don't they just replace the lights in the conversions. I am not understanding why the MTA Corona doesn't want the conversions to look at least a little better. Is 7221-30 the only set they are fixing up? R188 7857 said 7241 looks awful... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted August 17, 2014 Share #4331 Posted August 17, 2014 The conversions go for the bare minimum. As a lot of people here can probably attest, they look just as bad as they did when they were running on the , and the only way you can tell that they are in fact R188s is based on the fact that they are on the . From what recent posts are saying, Corona is beginning to fix up the sets, but there's only so much they can do with the garbage that Westchester sent them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOPRO Posted August 17, 2014 Share #4332 Posted August 17, 2014 So why don't they just replace the lights in the conversions. I am not understanding why the MTA Corona doesn't want the conversions to look at least a little better. Is 7221-30 the only set they are fixing up? R188 7857 said 7241 looks awful... These decisions are not made by the yard. They are made by the allocation of the budget. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech And Transit Posted August 17, 2014 Share #4333 Posted August 17, 2014 Ok. So first, I say the MTA should clean up the sets and someone says it's the yards decision so I say it's the yard and now it's according to a budget. Which is it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted August 17, 2014 Share #4334 Posted August 17, 2014 Ok. So first, I say the MTA should clean up the sets and someone says it's the yards decision so I say it's the yard and now it's according to a budget. Which is it? Its according to a budget. A NYCT worker just confirmed that for you... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech And Transit Posted August 18, 2014 Share #4335 Posted August 18, 2014 Its according to a budget. A NYCT worker just confirmed that for you... Yes. And I'm saying whoever said it was the yard was obviously wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R142A7565 Posted August 18, 2014 Share #4336 Posted August 18, 2014 Why does budget have to deal with not fixing the set R188 conversion . Come on. For myself on R188 conversion . Someone should admit R188 conversion are getting fixed , they are running well on & Not like the from Westchester Yard... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTA Bus Posted August 18, 2014 Share #4337 Posted August 18, 2014 Why does budget have to deal with not fixing the set R188 conversion . Come on. For myself on R188 conversion . Someone should admit R188 conversion are getting fixed , they are running well on & Not like the from Westchester Yard... The MTA is being cheap with the conversions. All they are doing on the trains is installing CBTC and changing the strip maps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted August 18, 2014 Share #4338 Posted August 18, 2014 the annoyance on the conversion sets has been repeated multiple times in this thread, can we please continue with this thread without more gripes about it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R142A7565 Posted August 18, 2014 Share #4339 Posted August 18, 2014 (edited) Why is everyone repeated of R188 conversion ( mostly R142A) have to deal when a train set coming from a different yard.. It look some cannot stand from another train yard cannot take care of their train true. Edited August 18, 2014 by R142A7565 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted August 18, 2014 Share #4340 Posted August 18, 2014 Why do repeated of conversion have to deal when a train set coming from a different yard.. It look some cannot stand from another train cannot take care of their train true.Do you even English??? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R142A7565 Posted August 18, 2014 Share #4341 Posted August 18, 2014 I do agree we should stop repeating conversion .. I hope everyone can stop blaming on Westchester Yard we can be truce.. Almost a lot of people in this topic are upset with Westchester Yard... Go back to R188 topic 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech And Transit Posted August 18, 2014 Share #4342 Posted August 18, 2014 The MTA is being cheap with the conversions. All they are doing on the trains is installing CBTC and changing the strip maps. Thank you! Someone agrees! About this conversion issue, it really is starting to get crazy. I mean, it seems like 7211-7220 are dead. 7221-7230 are ok. I don't know what the hell is happening with 31-40. 41 looks like crap apparently. I don't know about 7250. 51-60 are still testing. It gets only a little better going up but it still depends on the car. And seriously, adding CBTC equipment and changing strip maps is really cheap. I guess at this point we should be greatful they are even testing them before placing them in service. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R188 7857 Posted August 18, 2014 Share #4343 Posted August 18, 2014 Thank you! Someone agrees! About this conversion issue, it really is starting to get crazy. I mean, it seems like 7211-7220 are dead. 7221-7230 are ok. I don't know what the hell is happening with 31-40. 41 looks like crap apparently. I don't know about 7250. 51-60 are still testing. It gets only a little better going up but it still depends on the car. And seriously, adding CBTC equipment and changing strip maps is really cheap. I guess at this point we should be greatful they are even testing them before placing them in service. 7211-7220 has CBTC installed already, and was undergoing CBTC testing in the yard but I didn't see it the other day. 7221-7230 is probably the best condition conversion set out there,, at least on 7230 they fixed up some door stickers (the ones from the were distorted and ripped) and was cleaned up a bit. 7241 is absolute disgusting.... air bubbles in the floor, RUST, vandalism, brown dots on the cab door (wtf?)...... By the way, they do way more than add CBTC equipment/change strip maps. They have to rewire the cab and the cab area, do a lot of wiring.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech And Transit Posted August 18, 2014 Share #4344 Posted August 18, 2014 7211-7220 has CBTC installed already, and was undergoing CBTC testing in the yard but I didn't see it the other day. 7221-7230 is probably the best condition conversion set out there,, at least on 7230 they fixed up some door stickers (the ones from the were distorted and ripped) and was cleaned up a bit. 7241 is absolute disgusting.... air bubbles in the floor, RUST, vandalism, brown dots on the cab door (wtf?)...... By the way, they do way more than add CBTC equipment/change strip maps. They have to rewire the cab and the cab area, do a lot of wiring.... The wiring is part of the CBTC installation, isn't it?... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R142A7565 Posted August 18, 2014 Share #4345 Posted August 18, 2014 Anyway too clean off rust & brown dots on 7241 ... R142A 7241 - #7250 need to get car washed.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m7zanr160s Posted August 18, 2014 Share #4346 Posted August 18, 2014 I think a conversion is just that, a conversion; not a cleaning; from 142 to 188. Give Corona yard a chance to maintain them, first. If these cars still look bad a year from now, then complain; now is too early. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R142A7565 Posted August 18, 2014 Share #4347 Posted August 18, 2014 Only cars that are bad shape is R142A #7211 - #7590... Not R188 #7811 - #7936 they are in great shape.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted August 18, 2014 Share #4348 Posted August 18, 2014 Do you even English??? Lmaooo just likes to babble and make no sense. One of those members that post like crazy for a few months and then never post again just like all them other users. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted August 18, 2014 Share #4349 Posted August 18, 2014 I wouldn't hold my breath on Corona fixing up the interior on the conversion sets.. you 188 lovers should hop over to the L line and look at the condition of the interiors of the 143s, pretty dirty but they look nice on the outside, just like the converted 188s on the 7. You guys should stop whining so much about the interior of the NTT on the 7, in NYC the interior of transit vehicles don't stay looking nice for long, the sooner you'll except it, the happier you'll be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R188 7857 Posted August 18, 2014 Share #4350 Posted August 18, 2014 (edited) The wiring is part of the CBTC installation, isn't it?... I don't think so when it's at Kawasaki. I think it's just for the new cab and such. The CBTC gets installed by the CBTC contractor, right now the trains don't have CBTC yet except for 7211-7220. Edited August 18, 2014 by R188 7857 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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