MysteriousBtrain Posted October 4, 2014 Share #1626 Posted October 4, 2014 (edited) The R179s are still delayed and as of right now the test train is now supposed to get delivered in July 2015 , due to the welding issues, If not cleared after testing and if the problem isn't solved it can be delayed even up to a year or more. That's what I mean't. The R179s were to be delivered on December 2014, but got delayed to July 2015. I actually thought they were to be delivered last summer, but I think got the dates mixed up. Edited October 4, 2014 by MysteriousBtrain 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted October 4, 2014 Share #1627 Posted October 4, 2014 I figured thats what you meant so I just took that as a typo. It happens. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparen of Iria Posted October 4, 2014 Share #1628 Posted October 4, 2014 [As long as they're not delayed AGAIN] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted October 5, 2014 Share #1629 Posted October 5, 2014 It appears that around 3:00 PM every weekday the garbage train with 3694/5 is around Elmhurst toward manhattan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodside7878 Posted November 5, 2014 Share #1630 Posted November 5, 2014 I wonder if the R179 interior will have bright LED lighting like the experimental LED lights on the R160 that were successful, it better than the fluorescent lights that is on the current fleet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomtoon Posted November 5, 2014 Share #1631 Posted November 5, 2014 Are they the same as on the NEW R188's? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R62AR33 Posted November 5, 2014 Share #1632 Posted November 5, 2014 (edited) [As long as they're not delayed AGAIN] With this delay there's no way to retire all R32s by 2017 anymore , considering that they have to fix this issue then it will take 6 months-a year to test the rest of the R179s once built and sent into property and if even succesful then slowely they can start retiring the R42s first then the R32s , the way everything is looking like they should give those R42s some type of sms for them to last at least by 2016-17 on the and because they aren't in good shape at all.... Edited November 5, 2014 by R62AR33 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted November 5, 2014 Share #1633 Posted November 5, 2014 The R42s are a small fleet (minority in the whole subway fleet in general) and aren't always in service, so it really doesn't matter. From my prespective, the is almost always just R160s during the off-peak. Weather the R32s or the R42s get retired first doesn't count, because that's the whole point of the R179s. They're replacing anything below the R46s (not counting the SIR R44s). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodside7878 Posted November 15, 2014 Share #1634 Posted November 15, 2014 I wonder if the R179 will be delivered by rail like they did to the R142 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted November 15, 2014 Share #1635 Posted November 15, 2014 If its coming from Bombardier, then most likely it will 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andres Posted November 21, 2014 Share #1636 Posted November 21, 2014 So once the R179s come will they be assigned to a specific line, or be prepped to work on any line. Better yet will they start on one line and then intermix with the rest of the B-Division fleet? Like will we one day see R179s on the or other line. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted November 21, 2014 Share #1637 Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) So once the R179s come will they be assigned to a specific line, or be prepped to work on any line. Better yet will they start on one line and then intermix with the rest of the B-Division fleet? Like will we one day see R179s on the or other line. The 4 car sets will be assigned to the lines since they have the oldest fleet in the system. As for the 5 car sets, some people say it's for the for 2 Avenue, and others say the to stay with the R179s on the . There is no way to tell where the 5 car sets will go at this time. Edited November 21, 2014 by MysteriousBtrain 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted November 22, 2014 Share #1638 Posted November 22, 2014 The MTA seems to have bad luck with orders as of lately. Deplayed orders seems to be common theses days. It's fascinating to know that the R32's outlived every other train from its time and will be older than the R46's when they retire. Now I wonder what the MTA would do if the R32's suddenly started problems and the R179s are not going to be here until 2017. The R42s are pretty much done for and if the R32's had problems all of suddenly I guess this will be a big lesson learned for the MTA. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted November 23, 2014 Share #1639 Posted November 23, 2014 That's why the cars are being closely monitored and undergoing SMS on a regular basis. Unless something catastrophic happens, both the 32s and 42s should last until the final deliveries of the 179s in 2017. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1995 Orion V CNG Posted November 24, 2014 Share #1640 Posted November 24, 2014 The R179s need to get here fast! Makes me wonder if ditching the R44s instead of giving them another Overhaul was the smartest Idea..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTA1992 Posted November 24, 2014 Share #1641 Posted November 24, 2014 They had no choice, the cars were structurally unsafe. Keeping them in service would have been a huge risk to the riding public. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1995 Orion V CNG Posted November 24, 2014 Share #1642 Posted November 24, 2014 They had no choice, the cars were structurally unsafe. Keeping them in service would have been a huge risk to the riding public. Yeah, but the units on Staten Island are still in working order (somewhat). They could of giving them another SMS. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTA Bus Posted November 24, 2014 Share #1643 Posted November 24, 2014 Yeah, but the units on Staten Island are still in working order (somewhat). They could of giving them another SMS. The ones on Staten Island are like the R42s, they're barely making it by. Those should have retired when the NYCT ones retired. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1995 Orion V CNG Posted November 24, 2014 Share #1644 Posted November 24, 2014 The ones on Staten Island are like the R42s, they're barely making it by. Those should have retired when the NYCT ones retired. If they did that, what would of replaced them? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted November 24, 2014 Share #1645 Posted November 24, 2014 (edited) There's no choice and what would replace those cars? It won't be the R46 or such as the subway is short as is with the R44s retired. The one thing that has lessened the blow when the R44s were all retired was the M-V merge which allowed them to run shorter trains on QB and 6th av as well as trimming off unnecessary segments (V to 2nd av and M to Chambers or Bay Parkway). Edited November 24, 2014 by Grand Concourse 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1995 Orion V CNG Posted November 24, 2014 Share #1646 Posted November 24, 2014 There's no choice and what would replace those cars? It won't be the R46 or such as the subway is short as is with the R44s retired. The one thing that has lessened the blow when the R44s were all retired was the M-V merge which allowed them to run shorter trains on QB and 6th av as well as trimming off unnecessary segments (V to 2nd av and M to Chambers or Bay Parkway). Did the MTA actually used all their R-160 options, or were there others that were allowed to expire? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted November 24, 2014 Share #1647 Posted November 24, 2014 I am not sure. I would guess the mta probably used the options and did not expect to need more R160 8 car sets because of the R44 retirement. Otherwise they would've retired all their R42s and most of the R32s on the C already. If the R44s were still around, they probably would've been given to the C. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted November 24, 2014 Share #1648 Posted November 24, 2014 If they did that, what would of replaced them? Probably shuttle buses but that wouldn't be enough. Other transit authorities may step in and help but I kind of doubt that. At the moment the MTA can't afford to lose anything. The fact that it's 2014 and we still have train from 1964 is amazing. The R32s were suppose to be retired about 10 years ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1995 Orion V CNG Posted November 25, 2014 Share #1649 Posted November 25, 2014 More like 15 years ago. The R32s were originally scheduled to be replaced sometime before 2000. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R62AR33 Posted November 25, 2014 Share #1650 Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) More like 15 years ago. The R32s were originally scheduled to be replaced sometime before 2000. The 's biggest problem is that they retired the smees to fast.... they went scrap happy and assumed that they didn't have to wait to see how to the R160s performed, i agree the R40 slants and alot of the R42s had to go BUT they should have kept the Best of the R38s and R40M's , had alot of them stayed the wouldn't be in this situation that is a lesson learned not to retire cars so fast. With the R44s retirement it made it much worst , that is why you see R32s on the and and the R68/A on the . What is saving them from a car shortage is the R32s and remaining R42s... Edited November 25, 2014 by R62AR33 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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