IAlam Posted January 19, 2016 Share #17001 Posted January 19, 2016 Seating capacity, I think the Xcelsior has 1 more seat over the LFS. Standing capacity, I think they're about the same. Xcelsiors have 40 Novas have 39 when there is an overflow of passengers where passengers end up passed the white line the novas can hold a lot more ppl than the xd 40's can 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted January 19, 2016 Share #17002 Posted January 19, 2016 Every day. Everything is done (refuel, farebox probing, sweeping/mopping of floor, oils & fluids refilled) in one spot, then the bus gets washed and parked. This about half right. Fueling, farebox probing, and fluid checks are done daily on most buses. All buses get SWEPT daily, moped if theres vomit, urine, or feces present. A full interior and exterior scrub is suppose to be done once a month. This consists of sweeping and moping the floors, cleaning the windows, cleaning the seats, and hand washing the exterior of the bus. Once again, this is what is suppose to happen for each bus. It doesn't always get done. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted January 19, 2016 Share #17003 Posted January 19, 2016 5233 now has orange signs. Saw it on 34th. Looks like they're resuming the sign changes. So they jumped to the 5200s? 5125 & up still haven't got the sign update and 5124 was the last one to get a orange sign (IIRC). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted January 19, 2016 Share #17004 Posted January 19, 2016 Even though I saw this yesterday, may I ask what an SBS-wrapped LFSA (CS) was doing on Woodhaven Blvd at 63 Avenue. It was just parked there, but I didn't understand why it was there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted January 19, 2016 Share #17005 Posted January 19, 2016 So they jumped to the 5200s? 5125 & up still haven't got the sign update and 5124 was the last one to get a orange sign (IIRC). some of the 5200s from Quill have the orange signs (ex: 5226) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTA Bus Posted January 20, 2016 Share #17006 Posted January 20, 2016 So they jumped to the 5200s? 5125 & up still haven't got the sign update and 5124 was the last one to get a orange sign (IIRC). They're only doing it to the buses that had/has Twinvision signs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted January 20, 2016 Share #17007 Posted January 20, 2016 They're only doing it to the buses that had/has Twinvision signs. I know. IIRC 5125 & up have Twinvisions just like 5100-5124. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted January 20, 2016 Share #17008 Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) I know. IIRC 5125 & up have Twinvisions just like 5100-5124. 5105-5124, 5220-5249 are the ones/formerly with Twinvisons Edited January 20, 2016 by Calvin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted January 20, 2016 Share #17009 Posted January 20, 2016 5105-5124, 5220-5249 are the ones/formerly with Twinvisons Thank you. i thought it was off after I typed it. Do you have a list of the ones still with TwinVisions? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted January 20, 2016 Share #17010 Posted January 20, 2016 when there is an overflow of passengers where passengers end up passed the white line the novas can hold a lot more ppl than the xd 40's can They're about the same.....it just looks like the Novas can hold more because of how the front layout is like. Thank you. i thought it was off after I typed it. Do you have a list of the ones still with TwinVisions? Mostly the Quill units except for 5220-5222, 5224, 5226, 5233-5234. You still got a good chunk of those left. I would think Ulmer Park's batch is entirely with Hanover signs. I hear that they're changing them as soon as a TwinVision sign goes bad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted January 20, 2016 Share #17011 Posted January 20, 2016 They're about the same.....it just looks like the Novas can hold more because of how the front layout is like. Mostly the Quill units except for 5220-5222, 5224, 5226, 5233-5234. You still got a good chunk of those left. I would think Ulmer Park's batch is entirely with Hanover signs. I hear that they're changing them as soon as a TwinVision sign goes bad. only one has Twinvison signs at Ulmer Park (RTS #5118) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted January 20, 2016 Share #17012 Posted January 20, 2016 Hate twinvision. It hurts to look at when the signs transition almost as much as the first Xcelsiors. I was wondering when the replacement program would resume. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted January 20, 2016 Share #17013 Posted January 20, 2016 only one has Twinvison signs at Ulmer Park (RTS #5118) Yeah I think that's the one. They're about the same.....it just looks like the Novas can hold more because of how the front layout is like. Mostly the Quill units except for 5220-5222, 5224, 5226, 5233-5234. You still got a good chunk of those left. I would think Ulmer Park's batch is entirely with Hanover signs. I hear that they're changing them as soon as a TwinVision sign goes bad. None of the 50xx have TwinVisions? Ulmer has a chunk of those (5076 and up plus a few in the 500x and 502x range IIRC) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted January 20, 2016 Share #17014 Posted January 20, 2016 None of the 50xx have TwinVisions? Ulmer has a chunk of those (5076 and up plus a few in the 500x and 502x range IIRC) No 49xx-5000 RTS have twinvison signs, only 5100s and 5200s 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted January 20, 2016 Share #17015 Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) Yeah I think that's the one. None of the 50xx have TwinVisions? Ulmer has a chunk of those (5076 and up plus a few in the 500x and 502x range IIRC) Here's a list of all the signs used and what buses have them: Luminator MegaMax Flipdot -All 1996/1997 Novas -6000 & 6001 Luminator MegaMax 3000 LED Flipdot -All other Orion Vs -1999 Novas 4900-5104, 5125-5219 -All green sign D60s -All green sign MCIs -All green sign Orion VIIs (both hybrid & CNG) -Some scattered 1997 RTSs (9525 has front & side ones) TwinVision LeDot -5105-5124 & 5220-5249 as delivered, see below Hanover Displays Monochrome LED -Any above mentioned with new signs -9444 -XD40s 4811-4899 -XD60s 4710-4799 Luminator Horizon LED -All D60s with orange signs -MCI 2210-2250, 3000-3474, 4300-4329, 2925-2930 -All Orion VII CNGs with orange signs -Orion VII hybrid 6490-6789 Luminator Titan LED -All MTA Bus Orion VII hybrids -NYCT Orion VII hybrid 6790-6905 -All new C40s, except for 300 -MCI 2251-2304 -All Nova LFSA, except multicolored ones -Orion VII 3Gs -All Orion VII NGs, except for S79 SBS units Luminator Spectrum Multicolored LED -All new XD40s, except LGAs batch -Nova LFSA SBS units -S79 SBS units -XD40 4810 (not sure about this one, may be Axion) -C40LF 300 Axion LED -LFS 8000-8089 Axion RGB Multicolored LED -All new Nova LFS -LGAs batch of XD40s Aesys VerbaBus LED -All Prevosts Edited January 20, 2016 by Fresh Pond 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted January 20, 2016 Share #17016 Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) Here's a list of all the signs used and what buses have them: Luminator MegaMax Flipdot -All 1996/1997 Novas -6000 & 6001 Luminator MegaMax 3000 LED Flipdot -All other Orion Vs -1999 Novas 4900-5104, 5125-5219 -All green sign D60s -All green sign MCIs -All green sign Orion VIIs (both hybrid & CNG) -Some scattered 1997 RTSs (9525 has front & side ones) TwinVision LeDot -5105-5124 & 5220-5249 as delivered, see below Hanover Displays Monochrome LED -Any above mentioned with new signs -9444 -XD40s 4811-4899 -XD60s 4710-4799 Luminator Horizon LED -All D60s with orange signs -MCI 2210-2250, 3000-3474, 4300-4329, 2925-2930 -All Orion VII CNGs with orange signs -Orion VII hybrid 6490-6789 Luminator Titan LED -All MTA Bus Orion VII hybrids -NYCT Orion VII hybrid 6790-6905 -All new C40s, except for 300 -MCI 2251-2304 -All Nova LFSA, except multicolored ones -Orion VII 3Gs -All Orion VII NGs, except for S79 SBS units Luminator Spectrum Multicolored LED -All new XD40s, except LGAs batch -Nova LFSA SBS units -S79 SBS units -XD40 4810 (not sure about this one, may be Axion) -C40LF 300 Axion LED -LFS 8000-8089 Axion RGB Multicolored LED -All new Nova LFS -LGAs batch of XD40s Aesys VerbaBus LED -All Prevosts 4810 supposedly has a multicolored hanover sign. The OGs with the Horizons I believe is up to 6689 or 6690. Edited January 20, 2016 by Cait Sith 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted January 20, 2016 Share #17017 Posted January 20, 2016 4810 supposedly has a multicolored hanover sign. The OGs with the Horizons I believe is up to 6689 or 6690. Looks like a Hanover to me (As an artist, I really like the whole 8-bit wave thing going on in the blue background ) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted January 20, 2016 Share #17018 Posted January 20, 2016 4810 supposedly has a multicolored hanover sign. The OGs with the Horizons I believe is up to 6689 or 6690. Meant to say 6689. By the time I realized it, it was too late to edit it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JubaionBx12+SBS Posted January 21, 2016 Share #17019 Posted January 21, 2016 Is there anything wrong internally with 1281? I was on it Tuesday morning and the operator driving it was venting to some colleagues as it pulled into Pelham Bay. In the conversation, I hear the driver say the exact words "this bus is bad". I missed most of the other details so I can't exactly elaborate on why it was said but that part just surprised me when I heard it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafa Posted January 21, 2016 Share #17020 Posted January 21, 2016 If it's too cold outside they don't wash the buses. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted January 21, 2016 Share #17021 Posted January 21, 2016 Is there anything wrong internally with 1281? I was on it Tuesday morning and the operator driving it was venting to some colleagues as it pulled into Pelham Bay. In the conversation, I hear the driver say the exact words "this bus is bad". I missed most of the other details so I can't exactly elaborate on why it was said but that part just surprised me when I heard it. Before that bus got shipped to GH. It was at MCH/146th. So that could give you a explanation to why that bus is a piece of s*it. When MJQ had it, it was running good. But in plain english these 12xx need to be de relegated to local bus service only and not SBS+. Since FB just acquired 1233. Hope that bus could go local/limited and be tested on the B46 sometime soon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted January 21, 2016 Share #17022 Posted January 21, 2016 Before that bus got shipped to GH. It was at MCH/146th. So that could give you a explanation to why that bus is a piece of s*it. When MJQ had it, it was running good. But in plain english these 12xx need to be de relegated to local bus service only and not SBS+. Since FB just acquired 1233. Hope that bus could go local/limited and be tested on the B46 sometime soon. What are all the things wrong with the 1200's? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted January 21, 2016 Share #17023 Posted January 21, 2016 What are all the things wrong with the 1200's? Other than your typical issues here and there, not much. Their mileage is racking up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted January 21, 2016 Share #17024 Posted January 21, 2016 What are all the things wrong with the 1200's? Just as others are saying. Mileage and other maintenance issues 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted January 21, 2016 Share #17025 Posted January 21, 2016 Just as others are saying. Mileage and other maintenance issues I don't see what putting them on the local lines will do if it isn't just a question of mileage. If there are maintenance issues that can't be resolves (which is the impression that you're giving) then there will still be issues regardless of what line they are put on. Seems like the should (if possible) be sending these buses back to the manufacturer to have them address the problems because those buses are out of service more than anything else, becoming almost useless to the and the passengers who depend on them for bus service. It's ridiculous to see 40 footers on lines like the M102 that should be all artic. I saw one yesterday and had to do a double take. I said to myself, are they short again?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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