S79 SBS bus discussion thread

[Amtrak7 427]

This is a discussion of new S79 SBS service which started in Sept. 2012.

 

First, Not sure why the MTA did this several weeks early...to list the new timetables.

 

http://www.mta.info/...en/s079scur.pdf

[NX Express 292]

Thanks.

 

So which features of SBS does this pseudo-SBS have? Not having fare machines takes away the easiest way to differentiate an SBS route.

[Amtrak7 427]

Thanks.

 

So which features of SBS does this pseudo-SBS have? Not having fare machines takes away the easiest way to differentiate an SBS route.

 

 

SBS name, wrapped buses, bus lanes, maybe traffic signal priority.

[Via Garibaldi 8 8,595]

With all of the changes to this bloody line are they using artics on it or what?

[NX Express 292]

Not yet - that'll come in around a year IIRC.

 

SBS name, wrapped buses, bus lanes, maybe traffic signal priority.

 

So in essence, it's just a route with bus lanes and some electronics on the bus. So why call it SBS?

Edited August 9, 2012 by NX Express

[Shortline Bus 1,121]

Thanks Amtrak! Looks like this S79 SBS will be running from about 415am-130am weekdays and 445am-130am weekends. IMO this wouuld have been a great time to also add in hourly S79 service(which is probably the next service expansion plans). I know checkmate may disagree but the S79 did need a llimited. Not sure SBS was needed right now though.

[checkmatechamp13 2,273]

With all of the changes to this bloody line are they using artics on it or what?

 

 

Nope.

 

I wonder when they'll post the new schedules for the S59 & S78. Probably the beginning of September.

 

As for the S79, it seems the span is a little longer, and the time savings seem to vary by the time of day (looks like 4-10 minutes at a glance)

 

Thanks Amtrak! Looks like this S79 SBS will be running from about 415am-130am weekdays and 445am-130am weekends. IMO this wouuld have been a great time to also add in hourly S79 service(which is probably the next service expansion plans). I know checkmate may disagree but the S79 did need a llimited. Not sure SBS was needed right now though.

 

 

Yeah, I may disagree, but I don't. I don't know where you get the idea I ever opposed a limited, considering I specifically advocated for one in the past. I just didn't want +SBS+.

Edited August 9, 2012 by checkmatechamp13

[XcelsiorBoii4888 1,242]

Wow!!! 15 stops to the eltingville transit center! my friends gonna loveee thiss!!

[Interested Rider 533]

Thanks for posting the schedule.

Let the fun begin as the route is dependent on two routes that did not cooperate in the past and may not cooperate when this thing goes into effect. Watch the Brooklyn end of the line to see what will happen there as well.

The big test will come on the school holidays and Christmas time when the route becomes extremely heavy both passenger wise and traffic wise. Hopefully, all the problems will be worked out by Thanksgiving of this year.

[checkmatechamp13 2,273]

Eh, with the school holidays, if anything, usage would be a little lighter. Out here in SI, students make up a pretty good percentage of the ridership.

[Far Rock Depot 1,289]

Starting it in september helps with the school commuters. The lack of off board payment permits a quicker, cheaper start up. The fact it was posted now obviously may be a screw up in the html of the Site which happens everywhere often. One updates a Site in preparation and accidentally hits "publish". Lol. we may see the off board payment when we see attics but who knows. This will be the 4the route and 3 rd Boro with SBS with Brooklyn's B44 next.

[ACEVE14 37]

Perhaps that was too soon.

[FamousNYLover 558]

I wonder how fare will be collected on S79 SBS since both MTA and NYCDOT stated no off-board payment. Is that was fact or opinion?

[S78 via Hylan 1,076]

Because the S79 does not get hammered down at most stops like the other SBS routes, regular payment will be used except for 86th and 4 Av where the only machine will be installed.

[S78 via Hylan 1,076]

 

Yes, I know I'm late....

Edited August 10, 2012 by S78 via Hylan

[Quill Depot 1,570]

Why am I tilting my head...

[FamousNYLover 558]

Because the S79 does not get hammered down at most stops like the other SBS routes, regular payment will be used except for 86th and 4 Av where the only machine will be installed.

 

Is this means inspector will only be at 86th St/4th Av to make sure they paid?

[Mysterious2train 581]

I wonder how quickly the process would of gone if the MTA publicly expressed intentions of making the S79 into an all-Limited route, since that's essentially what's happening.

[Q43LTD 742]

This doesn't make any sense to me

[Acela Express 779]

This new service is just a really fancy limited service.

They could've gotten away with just changing the destination signs to "LIMITED" instead of all the flashy accessories.

[mark1447 685]

There was a link for the SBS PDF doc. Tho I wonder why this is being done a few weeks earlier, if it starts this Sept.

[N4 Via Merrick Rd 234]

Did you see any Fare Collectors (machines) put up at any stops yet?

[Via Garibaldi 8 8,595]

This new service is just a really fancy limited service.

They could've gotten away with just changing the destination signs to "LIMITED" instead of all the flashy accessories.

 

 

LOL... As far as I'm concerned that's just what the Bx12SBS and M15SBS are. They're trying to hype up something that they're well behind on. To tell you have far behind they are, when I went to Bologna in 2004, they already had tracking systems in on some bus lines and they're just getting around to it almost 8 years later. It is laughable at how advanced some transit systems are in comparsion to the MTA and yes I know it is large, but that's exactly why it should be more advanced.

[Q43LTD 742]

I like how they put machines at Bay Ridge, but not Staten Island Mall and Eltingville

[BrooklynIRT 257]

LOL... As far as I'm concerned that's just what the Bx12SBS and M15SBS are. They're trying to hype up something that they're well behind on. To tell you have far behind they are, when I went to Bologna in 2004, they already had tracking systems in on some bus lines and they're just getting around to it almost 8 years later. It is laughable at how advanced some transit systems are in comparsion to the MTA and yes I know it is large, but that's exactly why it should be more advanced.

 

 

Careful..we would not want to invoke the anti-bus improvement NIMBYs now would we?