BM5 via Woodhaven Posted June 22, 2016 Share #1 Posted June 22, 2016 The first phase of Summer Bus Changes begins tomorrow, with the changes in routing on the LGA routes (except the Q47). The second phase of changes begins July 3, and the third phase of changes begins July 5 Bus Route Changes (Starting June 22) Notices: Q48: http://web.mta.info/nyct/service/planned_servChanges_JuneQ48.htm M60, Q70, Q72:http://web.mta.info/nyct/service/planned_servChanges_M60SBS.htm Schedules: Q48: http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/queens/q048cur.pdf M60: http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/manh/m060scur.pdf Q70: http://web.mta.info/busco/schedules/q070cur.pdf Q72: http://web.mta.info/busco/schedules/q072cur.pdf Bus Route Changes (Starting July 5) B46 SBS: http://web.mta.info/mta/planning/sbs/B46SBS.html There are no notice on the QM- bus changes for the QM4, QM12, or QM24 yet, nor any other service changes. _____________________________________________________________________________________________ The Q72 has some short-turns from 94 Street/23 Avenue to LGA, which is unecessary, but whatever floats their boat I guess. Those maps on the Q70/Q72 look all sorts of jumbled in LGA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRunRob Posted June 22, 2016 Share #2 Posted June 22, 2016 The first phase of Summer Bus Changes begins tomorrow, with the changes in routing on the LGA routes (except the Q47). The second phase of changes begins July 3, and the third phase of changes begins July 5 Bus Route Changes (Starting June 22) Notices: Q48: http://web.mta.info/nyct/service/planned_servChanges_JuneQ48.htm M60, Q70, Q72:http://web.mta.info/nyct/service/planned_servChanges_M60SBS.htm Schedules: Q48: http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/queens/q048cur.pdf M60: http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/manh/m060scur.pdf Q70: http://web.mta.info/busco/schedules/q070cur.pdf Q72: http://web.mta.info/busco/schedules/q072cur.pdf Bus Route Changes (Starting July 5) B46 SBS: http://web.mta.info/mta/planning/sbs/B46SBS.html There are no notice on the QM- bus changes for the QM4, QM12, or QM24 yet, nor any other service changes. _____________________________________________________________________________________________ The Q72 has some short-turns from 94 Street/23 Avenue to LGA, which is unecessary, but whatever floats their boat I guess. Those maps on the Q70/Q72 look all sorts of jumbled in LGA. I see there wasting no time with LGA construction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted June 22, 2016 Share #3 Posted June 22, 2016 Those "short turns" are each bus entering service. Given the circumstances, it might make sense to pick up outside the airport. probibly as a favor to the workers who are porbibly losing parking space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY1635 Posted June 22, 2016 Share #4 Posted June 22, 2016 Why does the B46 SBS end at Dekalb Avenue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted June 22, 2016 Share #5 Posted June 22, 2016 Why does the B46 SBS end at Dekalb Avenue? To prevent buses getting slowed down under Broadway, which is a huge choke point for the route right now. I'm more concerned with why there is no SBS stop between Avenue N and Kings Plaza... seems like too much of a gap to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted June 22, 2016 Share #6 Posted June 22, 2016 To prevent buses getting slowed down under Broadway, which is a huge choke point for the route right now. I'm more concerned with why there is no SBS stop between Avenue N and Kings Plaza... seems like too much of a gap to me. There's an SBS stop on Flatlands Avenue, Avenue N and Kings plaza. There's no need to have stops on Avenue L, Avenue O and Fillmore Avenue. Let's not have this turn out like the SBS44+. The good news is that weekends it ends at 11:30 and during the week 11:00. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B46 via Utica Posted June 22, 2016 Share #7 Posted June 22, 2016 I feel that whatever short turns the Q72 has is completely necessary. I have very bad luck with that bus sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted June 22, 2016 Share #8 Posted June 22, 2016 Those "short turns" are each bus entering service. Given the circumstances, it might make sense to pick up outside the airport. probibly as a favor to the workers who are porbibly losing parking space. I feel that whatever short turns the Q72 has is completely necessary. I have very bad luck with that bus sometimes. Those buses are running as short-turns instead of running that same route out of service. Basically, as Kamen Rider said, the buses are going to LGA from the depot to start their trip. They might pick up a few riders transferring off the Q33 (not to mention whatever airport workers live in the immediate area) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeddekalbL Posted June 22, 2016 Share #9 Posted June 22, 2016 confirmed here http://laguardiaairport.com/news/changes-to-bus-routesstops-at-laguardia/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted July 3, 2016 Author Share #10 Posted July 3, 2016 Well, here's some more service changes that take into effect Monday (July 5) for express buses: 1. Route Relabeling: QM4 & QM24: http://web.mta.info/nyct/service/planned_servChanges_QM4.htm Schedules: QM4/QM44: http://web.mta.info/busco/schedules/qm004cur.pdf QM24/QM34: http://web.mta.info/busco/schedules/qm024cur.pdf 2. Route Change: QM12: http://web.mta.info/nyct/service/planned_servChanges_QM12.htm X17/X19: http://web.mta.info/nyct/service/planned_servChanges_X17_X19.htm 3. Express bus schedule changes: BxM3: http://web.mta.info/busco/schedules/bxm3cur.pdf - 6:55 AM Super Express trip now arrives 26 Street at 7:54 AM instead of 8:07 AM - 7:15 AM trip from Bailey Avenue arrives 26 Street at 8:12 AM instead of 8:06 AM - 5:35 PM trip from Yonkers now arrives 26 Street at 7:10 PM instead of 6:50 PM - Many PM rush hour trips to the Bronx and Yonkers will see time decreases by up to 9 minutes - Many other trips have minor schedule changes BxM4: http://web.mta.info/busco/schedules/bxm4cur.pdf - All AM and early midday trips to Manhattan will see trip time decreases from 2-10 minutes - Minor changes in trip times on PM trips to Manhattan - Minor changes to PM trips to the Bronx (including evening service) BxM7: http://web.mta.info/busco/schedules/bxm7cur.pdf - 6:00 AM trip serving Bellamy Loop and Dreiser Loop arrives 23 Street at 6:47 AM instead of 7:06 AM - 11:30 PM trip from Co-Op City arrives 23 Street at 12:17 AM instead of 12:31 AM - 12:30 AM trip from Co-Op City arrives 23 Street at 1:17 AM instead of 1:31 AM - Reductions by up to 10 minutes on many AM trips to Manhattan, and late PM and early AM trips to the Bronx - Trip Time additions to many PM buses to the Bronx BxM11: http://web.mta.info/busco/schedules/bxm11cur.pdf - 6:30 AM trip from Wakefield arrives 23 Street at 7:34 AM instead of 7:50 AM - 6:40 AM trip from Wakefield arrives 23 Street at 7:53 AM instead of 8:11 AM - 6:48 AM trip from Wakefield arrives 23 Street at 8:01 AM instead of 8:21 AM - 6:56 AM trip from Wakefield arrives 23 Street at 8:11 AM instead of 8:29 AM - 7:04 AM trip from Wakefield arrives 23 Street at 8:19 AM instead of 8:42 AM - 7:12 AM trip from Wakefield arrives 23 Street at 8:34 AM instead of 8:50 AM - 7:20 AM trip from Wakefield arrives 23 Street at 8:41 AM instead of 8:58 AM - 7:28 AM trip from Wakefield arrives 23 Street at 8:49 AM instead of 9:06 AM - Other trip times on late AM buses to Manhattan change by up to 13 minutes - Trip reductions on many PM buses to The Bronx by up to 10 minutes BxM18: http://web.mta.info/busco/schedules/bxm18cur.pdf - 7:15 AM trip from Riverdale will arrive Broadway/Battery Place at 8:48 AM instead of 9:06 AM - 7:30 AM trip from Riverdale will arrive Broadway/Battery Place at 9:03 AM instead of 9:21 AM - 7:45 AM trip from Riverdale will arrive Broadway/Battery Place at 9:21 AM instead of 9:36 AM - Other AM trips will see some trip time reductions by up to 9 minutes - Minor trip time reductions on most PM trips to The Bronx BM1: http://web.mta.info/busco/schedules/bm001cur.pdf - 7:00 PM trip from East Midtown will arrive Mill Basin at 8:37 PM instead of 8:48 PM - Trip time reductions on many evening trips to Brooklyn by up to 7 minutes --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On another note, they still did not update the QM12 schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted July 3, 2016 Share #11 Posted July 3, 2016 What changes result in these lines have reductions in trip time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAlam Posted July 3, 2016 Share #12 Posted July 3, 2016 What changes result in these lines have reductions in trip time? My guess is accuracy, the MTA want a more accurate prediction for riders, so can plan accordingly. ... or, they are planning to cut layover time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted July 4, 2016 Share #13 Posted July 4, 2016 Well, here's some more service changes that take into effect Monday (July 5) for express buses: 3. Express bus schedule changes: BxM18: http://web.mta.info/busco/schedules/bxm18cur.pdf - 7:15 AM trip from Riverdale will arrive Broadway/Battery Place at 8:48 AM instead of 9:06 AM - 7:30 AM trip from Riverdale will arrive Broadway/Battery Place at 9:03 AM instead of 9:21 AM - 7:45 AM trip from Riverdale will arrive Broadway/Battery Place at 9:21 AM instead of 9:36 AM - Other AM trips will see some trip time reductions by up to 9 minutes - Minor trip time reductions on most PM trips to Riverdale The changes to the run time also exist for the BxM1 and BxM2. This is nothing new either. It happens every summer. However, riders in Riverdale (myself included) have been pushing the for more accurate schedules. We don't want buses leaving the terminal late (as some drivers to on purpose) to avoid running hot. We've been adamant about buses being right on time. The issue with buses leaving the terminal late is that sometimes they NEVER get back on schedule, and before you know it, a bus can be 30 minutes late, which is completely unacceptable, and I've been filing complaints when those things happen. My BxM1 buses have been right on time in the mornings, and the BxM18 has been okay overall going back to Riverdale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted July 4, 2016 Share #14 Posted July 4, 2016 What changes result in these lines have reductions in trip time? They look at the BusTime data now and see if buses are running early or late (the thing that I can't seem to get a good answer to is how do they know if the B/Os are killing time to avoid being early, or if that's the actual runtime) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pranavbhat924 Posted July 4, 2016 Share #15 Posted July 4, 2016 New Bus Route Change: Bx46 getting extended to Norwood according to BusTime (As mentioned in the Random Thoughts Thread) Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegoBrickBreaker101 Posted July 4, 2016 Share #16 Posted July 4, 2016 New Bus Route Change: Bx46 getting extended to Norwood according to BusTime (As mentioned in the Random Thoughts Thread) Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app It was an accident, it isn't getting extended Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nostalgia Posted July 4, 2016 Share #17 Posted July 4, 2016 news release reports Q35 service to be greatly increased July 3. Latest timetable on web is Fall 2015 and Ride Guide based on that schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted July 4, 2016 Share #18 Posted July 4, 2016 The changes to the run time also exist for the BxM1 and BxM2. This is nothing new either. It happens every summer. However, riders in Riverdale (myself included) have been pushing the for more accurate schedules. We don't want buses leaving the terminal late (as some drivers to on purpose) to avoid running hot. We've been adamant about buses being right on time. The issue with buses leaving the terminal late is that sometimes they NEVER get back on schedule, and before you know it, a bus can be 30 minutes late, which is completely unacceptable, and I've been filing complaints when those things happen. My BxM1 buses have been right on time in the mornings, and the BxM18 has been okay overall going back to Riverdale. So you're saying that the schedule time is too long so drivers waste time to run "on-time" but end up wasting too much time and become late? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted July 5, 2016 Share #19 Posted July 5, 2016 Took the ab46 SBS this morning and it had the new July 2016 map in it. Still isn't updated online yet. B46 local still lime green and the SBS is blue with the SBS box with inverted colors under the route number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted July 5, 2016 Share #20 Posted July 5, 2016 Took the ab46 SBS this morning and it had the new July 2016 map in it. Still isn't updated online yet. B46 local still lime green and the SBS is blue with the SBS box with inverted colors under the route number. Odd.... It was updated online when I checked on my phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted July 5, 2016 Author Share #21 Posted July 5, 2016 Took the ab46 SBS this morning and it had the new July 2016 map in it. Still isn't updated online yet. B46 local still lime green and the SBS is blue with the SBS box with inverted colors under the route number. Odd.... It was updated online when I checked on my phone. It's up (hopefully for good): http://web.mta.info/nyct/maps/busbkln_new.pdf On another note, the B20/Q24 modified route is shown on the map too. Subway station names are in black instead of blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted July 5, 2016 Share #22 Posted July 5, 2016 I noticed that too. Has anyone seen the B12 and B25's new layover? I want to go check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted July 5, 2016 Share #23 Posted July 5, 2016 So you're saying that the schedule time is too long so drivers waste time to run "on-time" but end up wasting too much time and become late? Exactly... Or there's unexpected traffic that keeps them behind schedule. I would much rather the driver wait at the stop and then leave on time (as they've been doing of late) as opposed to coming 10 - 15 minutes late, because they almost never get back on schedule doing that. From what I can tell, the has been implementing BusTime into the latest schedules, and they seem to know where the drivers need more time at. I imagine they get averages from real-time tracking and then go off of that and it's pretty accurate that way. In Riverdale, the extra time tends to be given between 239th and Henry Hudson Parkway down to Kappock and Johnson, which makes sense because that's where the bulk of the riders come from (from Central Riverdale down to Spuyten Duyvil, as sometimes no one gets on in North Riverdale and the bus doesn't pick up until 239th Henry Hudson Parkway), plus you have a lot of elderly folks that board down in Spuyten Duyvil that take longer than the other folks. Of late the only time buses have been late is when they have a wheelchair to pick up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted July 5, 2016 Share #24 Posted July 5, 2016 It's up (hopefully for good): http://web.mta.info/nyct/maps/busbkln_new.pdf On another note, the B20/Q24 modified route is shown on the map too. Subway station names are in black instead of blue. And they still haven't fixed the error on the B70... Also the B63 reroute near the Gowanus has essentially become permanent, so they so should put that on the map too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted July 5, 2016 Share #25 Posted July 5, 2016 I just saw the new B4 schedule and it's crazy that they keep cutting the frequencies when the line saw an increase in ridership last year. The schedule looks more like an express bus schedule. They just don't want this line to succeed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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