CenSin Posted November 15, 2019 Share #22551 Posted November 15, 2019 6 hours ago, Jemorie said: The never showed up for you to take it to Grand Street and then walk? Or was the delay also on the as well? The trains and trains share a track. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted November 17, 2019 Share #22552 Posted November 17, 2019 When the uptown platform at 138th St closes, does that mean and trains will use the center track at all times or during non-rush hours? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemorie Posted November 17, 2019 Share #22553 Posted November 17, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: When the uptown platform at 138th St closes, does that mean and trains will use the center track at all times or during non-rush hours? They will continue to use the outer track heading northbound during off-peak excluding general orders. During the PM peak, the will continue to use the middle track. This way, when there are two trains back to back, the first midway between 138-GC and Lower Level 149-GC (delayed by an arriving northbound at Lower Level 149-GC) and the second sitting at 138-GC (making the stop and waiting), northbound s to Burnside/Woodlawn are not delayed. And remember, the outer track is the only way for Eastchester/Nereid Avenue trains to get to the White Plains Road Line. Same with Manhattan-bound coming from the White Plains Road Line and merging with the . Edited November 17, 2019 by Jemorie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RR503 Posted November 17, 2019 Share #22554 Posted November 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Lawrence St said: When the uptown platform at 138th St closes, does that mean and trains will use the center track at all times or during non-rush hours? There are switches north of 138 that allow s to use the connection to the LL while skipping 138. So yes, it'll be a two track op there for a while -- first time this has been the case in a long, long time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemorie Posted November 17, 2019 Share #22555 Posted November 17, 2019 (edited) 46 minutes ago, RR503 said: There are switches north of 138 that allow s to use the connection to the LL while skipping 138. So yes, it'll be a two track op there for a while -- first time this has been the case in a long, long time. Really? So the N/B outer track is out of service full-time until 138-GC reopens? There might be delays to Burnside/Woodlawn service during the PM peak if there are two s back to back ahead of it. Edited November 17, 2019 by Jemorie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted November 17, 2019 Share #22556 Posted November 17, 2019 There's an 68A train in service today, always nice to see the 68s running on the on a weekend. However one of the cars is cut out so it's been kind of an disaster crowding wise. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RestrictOnTheHanger Posted November 18, 2019 Share #22557 Posted November 18, 2019 8 hours ago, RR503 said: There are switches north of 138 that allow s to use the connection to the LL while skipping 138. So yes, it'll be a two track op there for a while -- first time this has been the case in a long, long time. 7 hours ago, Jemorie said: Really? So the N/B outer track is out of service full-time until 138-GC reopens? There might be delays to Burnside/Woodlawn service during the PM peak if there are two s back to back ahead of it. What is the rationale for taking the track at 138 OOS? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RR503 Posted November 18, 2019 Share #22558 Posted November 18, 2019 1 minute ago, RestrictOnTheHanger said: What is the rationale for taking the track at 138 OOS? https://new.mta.info/system_modernization/138stnorth Structural stuff, in short. 7 hours ago, Jemorie said: Really? So the N/B outer track is out of service full-time until 138-GC reopens? There might be delays to Burnside/Woodlawn service during the PM peak if there are two s back to back ahead of it. It'll certainly be interesting to see what happens. I for one am not optimistic about this GO's performance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted November 18, 2019 Share #22559 Posted November 18, 2019 56 minutes ago, RR503 said: https://new.mta.info/system_modernization/138stnorth Structural stuff, in short. It'll certainly be interesting to see what happens. I for one am not optimistic about this GO's performance. Dosen't that mean that there will be no downtown trains that skip 138th St as well? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RR503 Posted November 18, 2019 Share #22560 Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: Dosen't that mean that there will be no downtown trains that skip 138th St as well? Yes, though the lack of advisory on that makes me think I may have wrong info. Edit: seems I do. My apologies! Edited November 18, 2019 by RR503 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted November 18, 2019 Share #22561 Posted November 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, RR503 said: Yes, though the lack of advisory on that makes me think I may have wrong info. Edit: seems I do. My apologies! Then I wonder why the is being extended to Burnside Avenue then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted November 18, 2019 Share #22562 Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) stuck at Avenue U as of 8:18 AM… sick customer on the train. As of 8:23 AM, they've instructed the train crew to take the train there and then hold. At 8:25 AM, the train pulled into the Kings Highway station on the express track. At 8:26 AM, the train conductor announces there's a behind us… which promptly shows up at 8:27 AM. I get on the which leaves from the local track at 8:28 AM. I doubt the suckers who are still on the platform for express service will be satisfied. Express to Local Northbound trains are running on the local track from Kings Hwy to Prospect Park while we get medical help from someone at Kings Hwy. Expect delays in northbound service. Posted: 11/18/19 8:31 AM Edited November 18, 2019 by CenSin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted November 19, 2019 Share #22563 Posted November 19, 2019 On-board the to Coney Island, arriving at Dekalb Av comes an and it was a R160 too. Odd to see that the car number on the was 9208 while across from it was 9207 train with refurbished inside. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrivera Posted November 19, 2019 Share #22564 Posted November 19, 2019 22 hours ago, Lawrence St said: Then I wonder why the is being extended to Burnside Avenue then. They’ll be closing the track at 138 for some of the weekends, and the will dead end at 149 LL for some of the weekends as well. On occasion, both scenarios will happen on the same weekend. to Burnside *could* stick around as a GO pattern tho since the is saving money on platform conductors (there’s no fumigation or relay at Burnside) compared to when the ends at 149th. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel The Cool Posted November 19, 2019 Share #22565 Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, paulrivera said: They’ll be closing the track at 138 for some of the weekends, and the will dead end at 149 LL for some of the weekends as well. On occasion, both scenarios will happen on the same weekend. to Burnside *could* stick around as a GO pattern tho since the is saving money on platform conductors (there’s no fumigation or relay at Burnside) compared to when the ends at 149th. If you're talking about the upcoming Train G.Os for the next two weekends, that has nothing to do with the 138th Street work. They're doing unrelated work along Lenox Avenue including some structural work at Central Park North-110th Street 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abba Posted November 19, 2019 Share #22566 Posted November 19, 2019 On 11/15/2019 at 5:07 PM, CenSin said: The trains and trains share a track. Not at Church ave. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted November 19, 2019 Share #22567 Posted November 19, 2019 8 minutes ago, Abba said: Not at Church ave. I said that because the delays could have likely been somewhere north of Parkside Avenue where they do share a track. In any case, once the trains started moving, the delays inevitably got the too since our train was crawling through the shared track. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted November 19, 2019 Share #22568 Posted November 19, 2019 History Question; Why was Lexington the only line to be built without an "express station" at 33rd St? Or does this date back to the original IRT H system and why its built as a local? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted November 19, 2019 Share #22569 Posted November 19, 2019 48 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: History Question; Why was Lexington the only line to be built without an "express station" at 33rd St? Or does this date back to the original IRT H system and why its built as a local? That predates the H system... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewYorkElevated Posted November 19, 2019 Share #22570 Posted November 19, 2019 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: History Question; Why was Lexington the only line to be built without an "express station" at 33rd St? Or does this date back to the original IRT H system and why its built as a local? Because that is where the Park Avenue Tunnel starts and the tunnel planners had to space out the northbound and southbound tracks to accommodate this, hence why the local track is a bit taller than the express track there. It's interesting to note here that while that stop was being built, trolleys ran through the tunnel before cars and (correct me if I'm wrong) the area wasn't that fully developed then as it today. Edited November 19, 2019 by TheNewYorkElevated 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R68OnBroadway Posted November 19, 2019 Share #22571 Posted November 19, 2019 When they closed the Lex line for a week after the 1991 derailment, how did they structure service so as to minimize crowding? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italianstallion Posted November 20, 2019 Share #22572 Posted November 20, 2019 9 hours ago, TheNewYorkElevated said: Because that is where the Park Avenue Tunnel starts and the tunnel planners had to space out the northbound and southbound tracks to accommodate this, hence why the local track is a bit taller than the express track there. It's interesting to note here that while that stop was being built, trolleys ran through the tunnel before cars and (correct me if I'm wrong) the area wasn't that fully developed then as it today. Yes, there was nothing particularly notable at E. 33rd. St, as opposed to Herald Sq., Penn Station on the west side. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyclonicTrainLookout Posted November 21, 2019 Share #22573 Posted November 21, 2019 Anyone here know the reason Nostrand Avenue station was built in 2 levels instead of having 2 platforms/4 tracks on one level like the majority of the express stations? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted November 21, 2019 Share #22574 Posted November 21, 2019 45 minutes ago, CyclonicTrainLookout said: Anyone here know the reason Nostrand Avenue station was built in 2 levels instead of having 2 platforms/4 tracks on one level like the majority of the express stations? The architects changed their minds in the middle of construction. So they sacrificed the mezzanine to create a stop for the express by pushing the locals to the upper level. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted November 21, 2019 Share #22575 Posted November 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, CenSin said: The architects changed their minds in the middle of construction. So they sacrificed the mezzanine to create a stop for the express by pushing the locals it to the upper level. Fixed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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