R188 Discussion Thread

[MassTransitHonchkrow]

Surprised to see one of the R62A sets out on the yesterday. Getting rarer and rarer.

 

 

Blue and gold are the State colors of New York so, yes, they're New York colors.

I still think CT-transit bus designs are kanged tho

 

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[Daniel The Cool]

Yep the R62As that's still on the runs outside of rush hours as well. Caught one of the sets yesterday. I'm not going to lie, I actually like the R188s on the

[Around the Horn]

I still think CT-transit bus designs are kanged tho

 

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What the hell is "kanged"?

The CT Transit livery isn't even close to the MTA one...

 

 

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[Tech And Transit]

7491-7927-7500 is back in service after CBTC testing since the beginning of July. They'll probably pull another set OOS soon for more testing. Getting closer to 2017 when CBTC should be active. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdKiy3dddBg

Edited August 22, 2016 by Tech And Transit

[Fresh Pond]

Yep the R62As that's still on the runs outside of rush hours as well. Caught one of the sets yesterday. I'm not going to lie, I actually like the R188s on the

They both ran today. The first set was the train behind mines, and the other one was about 3 trains behind that

[Union Tpke]

I saw two sets of R62As yesterday on the .

[TheNewYorkElevated]

Yep the R62As that's still on the runs outside of rush hours as well. Caught one of the sets yesterday. I'm not going to lie, I actually like the R188s on the

Same here. I like the R188's. 

[MassTransitHonchkrow]

What the hell is "kanged"?

The CT Transit livery isn't even close to the MTA one...

 

 

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Terminology's from XDA, another forum I'm logged into in Tapatalk.

 

To "kang" is to essentially refurbish a trademark design or feature and call it your own.

 

For baseline development this usually promotes competition and innovation, but some Devs have been slanderous with what they've kanged.

 

I feel personally that the MTA is the Northeast's worst transit example. I just took the time to comb through some fiscal diaries of other agencies. As New Yorkers we've got it bad.

 

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[bobtehpanda]

>MTA is the worst transit example in the Northeast

>New York has two thirds of the nation's transit ridership and is single-handedly responsible for the rise in national public transit usage

>DC's Metro actually kills people

>A third of SEPTA's railcars are out of service

>NJT has no money and PATH hemmorhages it

>MBTA can't handle snow or money management properly

 

This shit gets hilarious by the day.

[cl94]

>MTA is the worst transit example in the Northeast

>New York has two thirds of the nation's transit ridership and is single-handedly responsible for the rise in national public transit usage

>DC's Metro actually kills people

>A third of SEPTA's railcars are out of service

>NJT has no money and PATH hemmorhages it

>MBTA can't handle snow or money management properly

 

This shit gets hilarious by the day.

 

I agree. The MTA's problems are minor compared to what happens elsewhere. How many people die in New York due to equipment issues? WMATA has killed more people in its history due to technical issues than the MTA or any of its predecessor agencies have in their history, including Malbone Street and Union Square.

[Far Rock Depot]

 

 

Terminology's from XDA, another forum I'm logged into in Tapatalk.

 

To "kang" is to essentially refurbish a trademark design or feature and call it your own.

 

For baseline development this usually promotes competition and innovation, but some Devs have been slanderous with what they've kanged.

 

I feel personally that the MTA is the Northeast's worst transit example. I just took the time to comb through some fiscal diaries of other agencies. As New Yorkers we've got it bad.

 

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Did you also take the time to see where most of the transit agencies money comes from? NY has the most funding coming from the farebox. Sure theres mismanagement of said monies but look at the overall picture. Our gates arent distance based. We have an internining network. Free transfers (look at other systems. Philly alone charges a dollar for a transfer) and also betwen buses and subways. Express and local service side by side. Our headways are extremely close compares to other systems. And the biggest plus-24/7 service!. We also have rigorous testing of new equipment which is observed by other agencies. To say that the MTA is the Northeasts worse example is highly laughable! The post below yours pretty much sums it up quickly. Especially since no one else in the country moves 6 million people a day.

 

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>MTA is the worst transit example in the Northeast

>New York has two thirds of the nation's transit ridership and is single-handedly responsible for the rise in national public transit usage

>DC's Metro actually kills people

>A third of SEPTA's railcars are out of service

>NJT has no money and PATH hemmorhages it

>MBTA can't handle snow or money management properly

 

This shit gets hilarious by the day.

Love this!

 

Dont forget to add BART to the list.

 

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[MassTransitHonchkrow]

I agree. The MTA's problems are minor compared to what happens elsewhere. How many people die in New York due to equipment issues? WMATA has killed more people in its history due to technical issues than the MTA or any of its predecessor agencies have in their history, including Malbone Street and Union Square.

When you put it that way...but you do have to admit, the fare after 2017 will be the highest ringer within a 110 mile area... $3 for local service is unheard of even if our neighbors slack elsewhere.

 

Just because we're doing better doesn't mean we shouldn't take heed

 

Your comment is a good breath of fresh air, but I am still I'll at ease with the MTA and fare increases. They stand to reverse ridership trends if they out price us...

 

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Did you also take the time to see where most of the transit agencies money comes from? NY has the most funding coming from the farebox. Sure theres mismanagement of said monies but look at the overall picture. Our gates arent distance based. We have an internining network. Free transfers (look at other systems. Philly alone charges a dollar for a transfer) and also betwen buses and subways. Express and local service side by side. Our headways are extremely close compares to other systems. And the biggest plus-24/7 service!. We also have rigorous testing of new equipment which is observed by other agencies. To say that the MTA is the Northeasts worse example is highly laughable! The post below yours pretty much sums it up quickly. Especially since no one else in the country moves 6 million people a day.

 

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Love this!

 

Dont forget to add BART to the list.

 

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I'm used to paying for an Xfer in TOR/PART, so I'm not shell shocked about it. But those buses go further and it's justified from my POV.

 

And just because the farebox is the largest collection source doesn't justify increasing the fare so high that it's 27% over the national inflation rate.

 

Charging more for MetroCard replacements, for instance. Holding wasteful litterers accountable while not punishing those who do pay the fare in full. $1 is too easy. The card needs to be more than the ride not the other way around.

 

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[Union Tpke]

When you put it that way...but you do have to admit, the fare after 2017 will be the highest ringer within a 110 mile area... $3 for local service is unheard of even if our neighbors slack elsewhere.

 

Just because we're doing better doesn't mean we shouldn't take heed

 

Your comment is a good breath of fresh air, but I am still I'll at ease with the MTA and fare increases. They stand to reverse ridership trends if they out price us...

 

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I'm used to paying for an Xfer in TOR/PART, so I'm not shell shocked about it. But those buses go further and it's justified from my POV.

 

And just because the farebox is the largest collection source doesn't justify increasing the fare so high that it's 27% over the national inflation rate.

 

Charging more for MetroCard replacements, for instance. Holding wasteful litterers accountable while not punishing those who do pay the fare in full. $1 is too easy. The card needs to be more than the ride not the other way around.

 

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Are you kidding me? $3 will be completely worth it. It will help finance the Second Phase of the SAS, and it will allow for new subway car orders, it will allow for station rehabilitations, and it will make sure that the system is not driven into the ground. I would be willing to pay that much per ride. Also, it is a real bargain if you are going from Inwood–207th Street to Far Rockaway!

[asi14]

if the mta actually goes ahead with the $3 metrocard they better have some damn large expansion planned

[Around the Horn]

Are you kidding me? $3 will be completely worth it. It will help finance the Second Phase of the SAS, and it will allow for new subway car orders, it will allow for station rehabilitations, and it will make sure that the system is not driven into the ground. I would be willing to pay that much per ride. Also, it is a real bargain if you are going from Inwood–207th Street to Far Rockaway!

No. $3 per ride is extortion plain and simple. I'd rather pay $2 for each new MetroCard than $3 a ride which is ridiculous.

[TheNewYorkElevated]

Love this!

 

Dont forget to add BART to the list.

 

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But there's not alot of issues with BART as of recent.

 

Oh wait, the transit strikes and the recent power outages, right? 

Edited August 23, 2016 by TheNewYorkElevated

[Take a Ride on the 1]

Same here. I like the R188's. 

R188 is wack. It's just like R142A. The R188 is extremely small. 

[Union Tpke]

R188 is wack. It's just like R142A. The R188 is extremely small. 

 

It is an A Division car. 

[Lance]

R188 is wack. It's just like R142A. The R188 is extremely small. 

Did you honestly expect something different when the majority of the cars are simply upgraded versions of the 142As?

[Take a Ride on the 1]

Did you honestly expect something different when the majority of the cars are simply upgraded versions of the 142As?

Hell yeah. Look at the R143 and R160. The MTA had some upgrades on R160 such as FIND system, Brighter interior, Dead-man handle, Metal plates around the window edges (in interior) to prevent vandalism, and glass not being able to be scratched. The cab corners is made of metal and not plastic. The R188 (fresh built sets) has same traction motors as R142A. It holds on to that old technology such as strip maps. It so very unoriginal not creative. 

Edited August 23, 2016 by Take a Ride on the 1

[cl94]

The R188s were basically built to the same plans as the R142As to save money. Also, as has been stated repeatedly, most of them are just R142As upgraded for CBTC. Would be quite odd to have a train where one car has a FIND and the others have strip maps.

 

You won't like this either, but the R179s will basically be R160s, again likely to save money on a redesign and speed the introduction of new cars.

[Calvin]

I noticed the converted R188s are coupled in a specific number

Ex: West to 34 St: end units with 1 and the 5 as the 5th car, 6th car ends with a #6 and 10 as the 11th car

Edited August 23, 2016 by CH3348

[asi14]

Hell yeah. Look at the R143 and R160. The MTA had some upgrades on R160 such as FIND system, Brighter interior, Dead-man handle, Metal plates around the window edges (in interior) to prevent vandalism, and glass not being able to be scratched. The cab corners is made of metal and not plastic. The R188 (fresh built sets) has same traction motors as R142A. It holds on to that old technology such as strip maps. It so very unoriginal not creative. 

thats because the B Division actually needs FIND systems-- it has much more fleet interchange the A Division. Also the R188's just operating on the 7-- its not like a whole new revolutionary thing like the R160s were. Its meant to be a refresh of sorts (CBTC asides).

[cl94]

thats because the B Division actually needs FIND systems-- it has much more fleet interchange the A Division. Also the R188's just operating on the 7-- its not like a whole new revolutionary thing like the R160s were. Its meant to be a refresh of sorts (CBTC asides).

 

The only 2 IRT lines that exchange fleets (the 2 and 5) have strip maps that show both. Everything else just stays on one line.

[ttcsubwayfan]

Hell yeah. Look at the R143 and R160. The MTA had some upgrades on R160 such as FIND system, Brighter interior, Dead-man handle, Metal plates around the window edges (in interior) to prevent vandalism, and glass not being able to be scratched. The cab corners is made of metal and not plastic. The R188 (fresh built sets) has same traction motors as R142A. It holds on to that old technology such as strip maps. It so very unoriginal not creative. 

Ha ha ha ha ha.

 

Oh wait, you're serious.

 

Let me laugh even harder.