RollOver Posted August 26, 2015 Share #1951 Posted August 26, 2015 (edited) Never mind. Edited August 26, 2015 by RollOver 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted August 28, 2015 Share #1952 Posted August 28, 2015 Passing word along (from a Bombardier employee) that the original test train that failed the initial inspections will be scrapped and a new test train is being built. Unsure if this affects delivery timeline or not. Test train numbers: 3000-3009. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted August 28, 2015 Share #1953 Posted August 28, 2015 Passing word along (from a Bombardier employee) that the original test train that failed the initial inspections will be scrapped and a new test train is being built. Unsure if this affects delivery timeline or not. Test train numbers: 3000-3009. Are there any pictures? I doubt it. I am not surprised about the numbering at all. Its really that bad? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted August 28, 2015 Share #1954 Posted August 28, 2015 Are there any pictures? I doubt it. I am not surprised about the numbering at all. Its really that bad? Unfortunately; no. Just word of mouth for now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted August 29, 2015 Share #1955 Posted August 29, 2015 Passing word along (from a Bombardier employee) that the original test train that failed the initial inspections will be scrapped and a new test train is being built. Unsure if this affects delivery timeline or not. Test train numbers: 3000-3009. I know it's probably just coincidental because of the current car numbering availability, but it's kind of funny that, once again, almost that exact same car number sequence is giving Bombardier and NYC Transit headaches. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted August 29, 2015 Share #1956 Posted August 29, 2015 Is it just me or are those the same car numbers for the R110B's? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted August 29, 2015 Share #1957 Posted August 29, 2015 Is it just me or are those the same car numbers for the R110B's?yeah 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted August 29, 2015 Share #1958 Posted August 29, 2015 Ya know I'm not suprised at all... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted August 29, 2015 Share #1959 Posted August 29, 2015 Ya know I'm not suprised at all... The R110B wasn't meant to be a production car in the first place. Just a simple test train to work out the kinks that would become the R143/160 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted September 2, 2015 Share #1960 Posted September 2, 2015 The R110B wasn't meant to be a production car in the first place. Just a simple test train to work out the kinks that would become the R143/160 It's just ironic that the same set of numbers for two different car types by the same manufacturer is being problematic =P 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewYorkElevated Posted September 12, 2015 Share #1961 Posted September 12, 2015 It's just ironic that the same set of numbers for two different car types by the same manufacturer is being problematic =P Or maybe just pure coicinidence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted September 12, 2015 Share #1962 Posted September 12, 2015 Or maybe just pure coicinidence. Being a coincidence (which it is) doesn't preclude it from being ironic. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3216068E Posted November 2, 2015 Share #1963 Posted November 2, 2015 Just like DBZ revived Frieza Im reviving this thread thats right anyway does anyone know when the first R179 test train is supposed to arrive? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted November 2, 2015 Share #1964 Posted November 2, 2015 Just like DBZ revived Frieza Im reviving this thread thats right anyway does anyone know when the first R179 test train is supposed to arrive?Just wait and see. No one knows anything yet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted November 3, 2015 Share #1965 Posted November 3, 2015 Just like DBZ revived Frieza Im reviving this thread thats right anyway does anyone know when the first R179 test train is supposed to arrive?You still have a few years to go. Last we heard the first R179's will be built sometime after 2019.The R32's are expected to last for another 6-7 years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel The Cool Posted November 3, 2015 Share #1966 Posted November 3, 2015 You still have a few years to go. Last we heard the first R179's will be built sometime after 2019. The R32's are expected to last for another 6-7 years. No 2016-2017 is when the first R179s suppose to come. The R32s is staying until the R211s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted November 4, 2015 Share #1967 Posted November 4, 2015 I would say 2017, but others say 2022 ( I find that to be BS) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted November 4, 2015 Share #1968 Posted November 4, 2015 You think Bombardier will be able to deliver 300 cars in 1 or 2 years? Their abysmal track record in recent times has made it quite clear that they can't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted November 4, 2015 Share #1969 Posted November 4, 2015 You think Bombardier will be able to deliver 300 cars in 1 or 2 years? Their abysmal track record in recent times has made it quite clear that they can't. I believe they were referring to the delivery of the first one, not all of them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted November 4, 2015 Share #1970 Posted November 4, 2015 I believe they were referring to the delivery of the first one, not all of them. My comment was in response to R32 3838's comment. You can't replace the R32s with nothing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel The Cool Posted November 4, 2015 Share #1971 Posted November 4, 2015 My comment was in response to R32 3838's comment. You can't replace the R32s with nothing. He was talking about the first R179s. We all know the R32s are staying when the R179s come in. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted November 4, 2015 Share #1972 Posted November 4, 2015 Oh, I thought he meant that the R32s would be retired and the R179s would be delivered by 2017. My mistake. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted November 5, 2015 Share #1973 Posted November 5, 2015 The original retirement date for all R32's was suppose to be 2019 because the thought that the R179 order was gonna be on track and then order the R211's (which hopefully, they pick bombardier to do). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted November 5, 2015 Share #1974 Posted November 5, 2015 (edited) The original retirement date for all R32's was suppose to be 2019 because the thought that the R179 order was gonna be on track and then order the R211's (which hopefully, they pick bombardier to do). I think Bombardier is done, at least for a while. When they finish their R179s, then MAYBE we can consider bringing Bombardier back. Edited November 5, 2015 by MysteriousBtrain 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted November 5, 2015 Share #1975 Posted November 5, 2015 With the financial turmoil the company is currently embedded in, the MTA would be wise to expand their list of car builders and move away from Bombardier. While both they and Kawasaki are familiar with the transit system, it doesn't do anyone any good if they can't deliver, nor does it help if there's only one viable option for car builders. Bombardier's production problems go way beyond the 179 order and I'd rather the MTA not just default to one builder, if not for anything else, for the sake of reasonable bids. We cannot afford price gouging because of a monopoly. Quite frankly, I'm surprised the MTA hasn't joined the TTC and announce any type of legal action against Bombardier for failure to deliver a product within a reasonable amount of time. Kawasaki has managed to deliver their cars within a couple of years at most of winning the bid for purchase, even if there were a few minor hiccups. Bombardier has had the project since 2012 and we won't see the first car until late next year at the very earliest. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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