SUBWAY - Random Thoughts Topic

[RTOMan]

CBTC is in effect on all Lines in Queens(depending on the train and if the TO is qualified) from 0600 to basically 2200 hrs..

Of coruse sometimes we are in it all day all night Depends on what they want to do...

Its in effect on the Echo from 50th to Queens Plaza (Not in effect in the Bypass yet)and from Roosevelt to Kew Gardens..

The Mikey from 47th-50th to queens plaza, and from Roosevelt CTL..

The Romeo same as the Mikey 

The Fox from Kew Gardens to Roosevelt that's it.

 

[Lawrence St]

4 hours ago, RTOMan said:

CBTC is in effect on all Lines in Queens(depending on the train and if the TO is qualified) from 0600 to basically 2200 hrs..

Of coruse sometimes we are in it all day all night Depends on what they want to do...

Its in effect on the Echo from 50th to Queens Plaza (Not in effect in the Bypass yet)and from Roosevelt to Kew Gardens..

The Mikey from 47th-50th to queens plaza, and from Roosevelt CTL..

The Romeo same as the Mikey 

The Fox from Kew Gardens to Roosevelt that's it.

 

Why the half activations? Isn't that annoying to the operator having to keep switching back and forth?

[4 via Mosholu]

13 hours ago, Lawrence St said:

I just noticed with the new AAS program update, the  to and from 238th St now use Diane's station announcements instead of Jessica's, that sucks...

This pandemic practically broke the East's announcement programs, changing between a loud voice from Lexington to the more gentle voice from Broadway - 7 Av. I do not know why they haven't come around to add more space on the computers that hold the announcements, though the fact that they managed to add space for the announcements that hold the R188 announcement program for the train was a wise move. The R142/A need to get more space for their programs, but I doubt it would matter now as a result of the R262 that could come any year from now.

Besides, I knew about this during the early mornings that I needed to take the Bronx thru Express from 238 Street; the last time I took it was the winter before the pandemic and they sill managed to have Jessica on it during the first few months of the pandemic from March to around August. The Franklin - Medgar Evers update should have been implemented much later than they did.

Edited May 17, 2021 by 4 via Mosholu

[RTOMan]

14 minutes ago, Lawrence St said:

Why the half activations? Isn't that annoying to the operator having to keep switching back and forth?

Software updates take time..

They are running CBTC test train GOs on the Midnights constantly gotta work these bugs out..

Not in the least either we leave the terminal in BYPASS or not...

Edited May 17, 2021 by RTOMan

[Theli11]

On 5/8/2021 at 1:34 PM, CenSin said:

If they could take either the or wouldn’t that mean in the AM, there are those transferring from the as well? Or is the lower number of transfers attributable to the fact that people would rather stand on the same platform than walk the stairs for the (4)?

Yeah, plus people would also wait for the at the station they're on unless it was a local station then, they might head to either 149 St stations for trains. Majority of the movement will be to the train (either from Jerome Av or from the .)  Not much need to transfer to Lexington Avenue unless you're on the  transferring and it doesn't matter which level you're at, you can still take either or , most people would opt for the on the same platform. 

[Calvin]

I wonder if the R160s that were used (before) on Queens Blvd: 9853-9942 have the CBTC kit for Queens Blvd or that it's turned off when being used on the  Astoria line. 

Edited May 18, 2021 by Calvin

[darkstar8983]

17 hours ago, Calvin said:

I wonder if the R160s that were used (before) on Queens Blvd: 9853-9942 have the CBTC kit for Queens Blvd or that it's turned off when being used on the  Astoria line. 

I think they do have CBTC kits, because the switch happened in December, and CBTC was already activated partially, so in your case, the  R160s are in CBTC Bypass Mode. If i recall correctly, the updated CBTC Contract for Queens Blvd was to have ALL R160s from 8377 - 9974 equipped, while the original contract was going to leave all the 99XX R160s out (9903-9942 for the , and 9943-9974 for the ). 

[CenSin]

Expect longer waits for ‌(Q) trains in both directions. We're running as much service as we can with the train crews we have available.

Posted: 5/23/21 8:09 AM

Okay… what is up with that? Everyone just decided to take a weekend-long vacation all at once?

[paulrivera]

4 hours ago, CenSin said:

Okay… what is up with that? Everyone just decided to take a weekend-long vacation all at once?

A perfect combination of Covid protocol, vacationing crews, overtime cost reductions, and a staff shortage

[Via Garibaldi 8]

7 hours ago, CenSin said:

Expect longer waits for ‌(Q) trains in both directions. We're running as much service as we can with the train crews we have available.

Posted: 5/23/21 8:09 AM

Okay… what is up with that? Everyone just decided to take a weekend-long vacation all at once?

 

2 hours ago, paulrivera said:

A perfect combination of Covid protocol, vacationing crews, overtime cost reductions, and a staff shortage

 guy in Supervision or Dispatcher (I forget which) said that they are still testing them every day upon arrival, and if they have a high temperature or anything like that to show that they be a risk, they are sent home, so yeah between that, the hiring freeze and them trying to cut back on OT, this is what we get. It varies from day-to-day too. Supposedly they are hiring or hired more train workers, but who knows. I don't see the situation changing for a while.

[MHV9218]

Sorta funny, the TA installed these new signs at W4 to replace the 1990s overhead signs. Unfortunately, they followed the 1990s service patterns, so they read ACE Uptown to the Bronx and Queens. 

[Lex]

42 minutes ago, MHV9218 said:

Sorta funny, the TA installed these new signs at W4 to replace the 1990s overhead signs. Unfortunately, they followed the 1990s service patterns, so they read ACE Uptown to the Bronx and Queens. 

Maybe they're looking to send  trains up Riverdale Avenue. *shot*

[R10 2952]

Not surprised.  When the  ran the occasional R32 in the 2000s and then a bunch of R40Ms and R42s in '08'-'09, there were always a bunch of rollsigns in the consists set to the brown <R>.  Odd because it didn't really happen that often on the R46s, by contrast.

On a side note, what does surprise me is we still don't have the brown <R> icon; we got the , the , even the , but no brown <R>.  What gives?   

Edited May 27, 2021 by R10 2952

[Wallyhorse]

15 hours ago, R10 2952 said:

On a side note, what does surprise me is we still don't have the brown <R> icon; we got the , the , even the , but no brown <R>.  What gives?   

Interesting we never had a "Brown " symbol on this.  I know I would have used it more than a few times suggesting what essentially would be that route, especially when I suggested essentially doing a split / route what would have had both routes (with the becoming full time and save for a few trains during rush hour that would continue to Broad Street) ending at Chambers to where you would do a simple cross-platform transfer to continue with the running Jamaica Center-Chambers and the running the old "Brown " route of Chambers-95th Street and the  starting elsewhere, running as it does now to 71-Continental. 

[R32 3838]

On 5/27/2021 at 1:12 AM, R10 2952 said:

Not surprised.  When the  ran the occasional R32 in the 2000s and then a bunch of R40Ms and R42s in '08'-'09, there were always a bunch of rollsigns in the consists set to the brown <R>.  Odd because it didn't really happen that often on the R46s, by contrast.

On a side note, what does surprise me is we still don't have the brown <R> icon; we got the , the , even the , but no brown <R>.  What gives?   

the reason for that is that some of those cars were trains and the brown was the closest sign.

[Around the Horn]

11 hours ago, R32 3838 said:

the reason for that is that some of those cars were trains and the brown was the closest sign.

Sometimes they would get really lazy and you'd get " " trains to 95th Street

[IRT Bronx Express]

I found this on Facebook the other day, and boy the comments (and the image itself) were amusing. Which inspired me to make a new sign based on this... eventually.

Edited May 30, 2021 by IRT Bronx Express

[vioreen]

When will the  see new tech again?

[Calvin]

4 minutes ago, vioreen said:

When will the  see new tech again?

Probably over 2023 or so. But, you can always find one as a  to 96 St during the AM rush going to Stillwell Av southbound and sometimes  at Stillwell Av signed up as a  going to 96 St on weekdays. 

[vioreen]

Its obvious that the  and  wont be seeing new tech anytime soon.

[R32 3838]

2 hours ago, vioreen said:

When will the  see new tech again?

 

yeah, the would get them again. If CI were to get a piece of the R211 order, the would be the first line to get them.

[R32 3838]

On 5/28/2021 at 1:12 PM, Around the Horn said:

Sometimes they would get really lazy and you'd get " " trains to 95th Street

yep, lots of R32's and r40/42's had that lmao, That was one big reason why they didn't want the to have most of the Older cars. Some trains turned into trains. But in July of 2009 new management (I heard someone from the IRT) demanded that the would be 100% R160 while the has most of the r46's and R160's and the have all the R32's,R40M/R42's. The was also going to have 6 car SMEE's as well but that never happened due to weekend OPTO.

[R10 2952]

On 5/30/2021 at 11:44 AM, R32 3838 said:

yep, lots of R32's and r40/42's had that lmao, That was one big reason why they didn't want the to have most of the Older cars. Some trains turned into trains. But in July of 2009 new management (I heard someone from the IRT) demanded that the would be 100% R160 while the has most of the r46's and R160's and the have all the R32's,R40M/R42's. The was also going to have 6 car SMEE's as well but that never happened due to weekend OPTO.

Jamaica Yard loved to play musical chairs with the car assignments; for most of the '90s and 2000s they had this habit of randomly bouncing sets of R32s from the ; often to the , sometimes to the  , rarely to the .  Interestingly, they never assigned any R32s to the  until 2009, for whatever reason.

[Lawrence St]

What line is fully OPTO other then the Shuttles?

[R32 3838]

4 hours ago, R10 2952 said:

Jamaica Yard loved to play musical chairs with the car assignments; for most of the '90s and 2000s they had this habit of randomly bouncing sets of R32s from the ; often to the , sometimes to the  , rarely to the .  Interestingly, they never assigned any R32s to the  until 2009, for whatever reason.

from 1991-2001 the assignments were mainly

R32, R46 occasional

R46

R32,R46

R46, R32 occasional

 

2001-2008

R32

R32,R46

  a few R32 rush hour put ins, R46

R46

August 2008- July 2009

R32,R40M,R42,R160

R32,R40M,R42,R46,R160

R32,R40M,R42,R46 * 60 foot smee's (rush hour put ins)

R46

 

July 2009-December2009

R160

R46,R160

R32,R40M,R42,R46

R32,R40M,R42

 

December 2009-May 2010

R160

R46,R160

R46

R32,R46

 

June 2010-2020

R160

R160, *R46 (the was all r160 until 2012 when the R46 started popping back up as put ins)

R46

 

present day all R160.

 

the reason why they made the 100% R46's was due to them wanting to attract riders which didn't work. originally the was going to have R32's on it until they decided on the R46's plus the / shared equipment so it made it easier to swap vs. an R32 where they would have to change all the rollsigns.