SUBWAY - Random Thoughts Topic

[Lawrence St]

I noticed that West Farms Sq and the Yankee Stadium station has a big gap that isn't used

That's from when the Polo Grounds shuttle used to connect to Jerome.

 

Speaking of Polo Grounds, there was a picture floating around that some guy managed to reopen the tunnel between Jerome and Sedgwick Avenue's on the Jerome bound side at Sedgwick. I don't know if he was able to reopen the side at Jerome (near Yankee Stadium). But from what I saw, the tunnels in BAD condition.

[danielhg121]

Would that be considered trespassing? Is there a gate or fence blocking it.

 

 

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[Train92]

There's a fence but there is a hole through the fence and you can squeeze yourself into it. I don't think its trespassing because the MTA doesn't own the station anymore.

[Around the Horn]

If you are curious about the work on Track 4 of the Grand Central Shuttle, here's a diagram that appeared on a skyscraper forum:

[S78 via Hylan]

I was looking back at some of the older subway timeables, and I just now noticed on the that one trip from the was removed.

 

Older schedule:

Manhattan bound: 7:09, 7:21, 7:33, 7:43, 7:53, 8:03, 8:13

Newer schedule: 7:21-8:13

 

Queens bound: 4:45, 4:55, 5:05, 5:15, 5:25, 5:35, 5:45

Newer schedule: 4:55-5:45

 

Is there any particular reason one trip was removed from each peak hour?

Edited April 12, 2017 by S78 via Hylan

[Spypenguin]

When and where do AM and PM rush hour put ins occur on the  ? (via Coney Island or City Hall?)

[Calvin]

When and where do AM and PM rush hour put ins occur on the  ? (via Coney Island or City Hall?)

AM Rush: 6:24AM, 6:42AM and 6:50AM from CIY,

6:53AM then every 10 minutes till 7:43AM at Astoria,

7:55AM from City Hall to Canal St

 

PM Rush (during G/O): 2:23PM and 2:43PM (CIY),

5:24PM from City Hall to Canal St, 

 

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Also, the Train of Many Metals will run along the Second Av line during the summer

Edited April 12, 2017 by CH3348

[N6 Limited]

Sometimes when waiting at 5th Aave on the I hear and feel the 42nd street Shuttle going by. What is the profile of the area around Bryant Park, is it built like a 6 track line with a wall between services?

[LongLiveRock]

Sometimes when waiting at 5th Aave on the I hear and feel the 42nd street Shuttle going by. What is the profile of the area around Bryant Park, is it built like a 6 track line with a wall between services?

 

 

From the Bryant Park platform, that doesn't seem to be true. It curves on a strange grade, and there's an indentation in the ceiling towards the north where you can hear a ~4 car train go by (the Shuttle). It's raised in the middle, presumably to allow the to go under.

[Lawrence St]

AM Rush: 6:24AM, 6:42AM and 6:50AM from CIY,

6:53AM then every 10 minutes till 7:43AM at Astoria,

7:55AM from City Hall to Canal St

 

PM Rush (during G/O): 2:23PM and 2:43PM (CIY),

5:24PM from City Hall to Canal St,

 

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Also, the Train of Many Metals will run along the Second Av line during the summer

Back up back up, what was that?

[Around the Horn]

Back up back up, what was that?

 

Transit Museum fan trip from 96th to Coney Island at 11AM, returning from CI at 4PM

[46Dover]

I have a question concerning the 's current termination at Court Square.

 

Since the doesn't cover the Queens Plaza local platforms at night, would it be possible for the to terminate there at those hours? And since the can't turn after QP, would the segment between Court Square and QP be capable of bidirectional operation?

Edited April 13, 2017 by 46Dover

[Fresh Pond]

 

 

I have a question concerning the 's current termination at Court Square.

 

Since the doesn't cover the Queens Plaza local platforms at night, would it be possible for the to terminate there at those hours? And since the can't turn after QP, would the segment between Court Square and QP be capable of bidirectional operation?

It actually can. There's a relay track between Queens Plaza and the merge with the (D5 track, same track the Holiday train uses to turn back), so if there really was some sort of problem where they can't be turned back at Court Sq, they can easily go to Queens Plaza to turn back.

 

But on the other hand, would such an extension really be worth it? Especially since there's already a connection at Court Sq for the and .

[46Dover]

It actually can. There's a relay track between Queens Plaza and the merge with the (D5 track, same track the Holiday train uses to turn back), so if there really was some sort of problem where they can't be turned back at Court Sq, they can easily go to Queens Plaza to turn back.

But on the other hand, would such an extension really be worth it? Especially since there's already a connection at Court Sq for the and .

I wouldn't say yes as much as I would say it wouldn't hurt just because of the cross platform transfer at QP as opposed to walking for distance at Court Square. I'd like to have both CS and QP available (hey, you can never have too much of a good thing right? ) Edited April 13, 2017 by 46Dover

[RestrictOnTheHanger]

So why did I just see a NIS pass through on the Manhattan bound local track at Roosevelt Ave?

[N6 Limited]

From the Bryant Park platform, that doesn't seem to be true. It curves on a strange grade, and there's an indentation in the ceiling towards the north where you can hear a ~4 car train go by (the Shuttle). It's raised in the middle, presumably to allow the to go under.

I meant on 42nd street in the 5th Ave station. West of the station the tracks curve to go to 41st street, but I'm referring to the portion on 42nd street.

[RR503]

Totally unrelated, but what would y'all say is the minimum headway at which skip-stop can work without causing delays?

[Wallyhorse]

It actually can. There's a relay track between Queens Plaza and the merge with the (D5 track, same track the Holiday train uses to turn back), so if there really was some sort of problem where they can't be turned back at Court Sq, they can easily go to Queens Plaza to turn back.

 

But on the other hand, would such an extension really be worth it? Especially since there's already a connection at Court Sq for the and .

I would say yes because especially (on an unlimited ride MetroCard) you can then walk over (with such card) and take the at Queensboro Plaza (of course, you can also take the at Court Square, but if you're looking for 57th-60th it is easier).  

[trainfan22]

Manhattan bound platform at 121st on the had its platforms completely removed, noticed the pillars that hold up the wall were completely rusted though at the bottom.

 

 

Always thought every elevated station rehab should get new concrete platforms and stairs. Pennsylvania Ave on the still has the same stairs it had prior to the rehab and the same platforms, just with ADA strips. 

[P3F]

Manhattan bound platform at 121st on the had its platforms completely removed, noticed the pillars that hold up the wall were completely rusted though at the bottom.

 

 

Always thought every elevated station rehab should get new concrete platforms and stairs. Pennsylvania Ave on the still has the same stairs it had prior to the rehab and the same platforms, just with ADA strips. 

When they rehabbed Ditmas Avenue, they replaced some of the concrete on the southbound platform, but not all of it.

 

On the remaining older parts, you can still see the orange platform edge strip under the windscreen, which is from when it was an island platform serving the Culver Shuttle.

[danielhg121]

Why does 53rd street get special treatment by being on the main homepage but 121st street doesn't, is it just cause one side is closed so it doesn't matter as much.

 

 

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[Around the Horn]

Why does 53rd street get special treatment by being on the main homepage but 121st street doesn't, is it just cause one side is closed so it doesn't matter as much.

 

 

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53 Street is part of the ESI (Enhanced Station Initative)

[agar io]

53 Street is part of the ESI (Enhanced Station Initative)

Yeah, and I guess 121 St is also only being renovated one direction, so no fanfare about it.

[S78 via Hylan]

104 St also has the platforms removed.

[paulrivera]

None of the southbound Jerome line countdown clocks are displaying arrival info as of now (just date and time), and SubwayTime isn't showing southbound data either.