IAlam Posted June 29, 2016 Share #401 Posted June 29, 2016 Is been stated 2 pages back already Just a confirmation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick44 Posted June 29, 2016 Share #402 Posted June 29, 2016 To double check, what's the final fleet numbers for wrapped buses for this SBS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted June 29, 2016 Share #403 Posted June 29, 2016 To double check, what's the final fleet numbers for wrapped buses for this SBS? I believe 7304-7354*. I could be wrong on this. However right now 7304-7351 are wrapped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted June 29, 2016 Share #404 Posted June 29, 2016 I believe 7304-7354*. I could be wrong on this. However right now 7304-7351 are wrapped.There are 48 buses set for the B46, so the buses for SBS are 7304-7351. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick44 Posted June 29, 2016 Share #405 Posted June 29, 2016 Thank you for that information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted July 1, 2016 Share #406 Posted July 1, 2016 No bus lane in front of the 77th Pct. In fact, no bus lane between St. John's Place and Bergen- northbound. Gridlock will be felt mostly on Southbound buses. I'm on the 46 now and there is in fact a bus lane...from Bergen to Atlantic northbound. Quite useless for 4 blocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted July 1, 2016 Share #407 Posted July 1, 2016 They have the local schedule online, but not the actual SBS46 yet. EDIT: It's up now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted July 1, 2016 Share #408 Posted July 1, 2016 B46 SBS http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/bkln/b046scur.pdf B46 http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/bkln/b046cur.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted July 2, 2016 Share #409 Posted July 2, 2016 I'm on the 46 now and there is in fact a bus lane...from Bergen to Atlantic northbound. Quite useless for 4 blocks If you ask me.. A total waste of 4 blocks. All simply b/c of the 77th Pct. Can't wait for the confusion of the Utica riders this Sunday. Let the eagle enforcement crew wrack up some tickets on Utica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted July 2, 2016 Share #410 Posted July 2, 2016 If you ask me.. A total waste of 4 blocks. All simply b/c of the 77th Pct. Can't wait for the confusion of the Utica riders this Sunday. Let the eagle enforcement crew wrack up some tickets on Utica. They usually give a grace period before they start giving tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewYorkElevated Posted July 2, 2016 Share #411 Posted July 2, 2016 And now we await the start time of this route since it's commencing tomorrow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegoBrickBreaker101 Posted July 2, 2016 Share #412 Posted July 2, 2016 And now we await the start time of this route since it's commencing tomorrow... The first SBS bus should leave Kings Plaza at 6:09 AM, and the first SBS bus from DeKalb should leave at 7:00 AM, based on the schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pranavbhat924 Posted July 3, 2016 Share #413 Posted July 3, 2016 The first SBS bus should leave Kings Plaza at 6:09 AM, and the first SBS bus from DeKalb should leave at 7:00 AM, based on the schedule. The driver doing the first run is going to have a hard time explaining everything so good luck to whoever that is! Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegoBrickBreaker101 Posted July 3, 2016 Share #414 Posted July 3, 2016 The driver doing the first run is going to have a hard time explaining everything so good luck to whoever that is! Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app Hopefully that's not the case. I'd hope most people in the area would have at least heard of a "Select Bus Service", as the B44 SBS runs parallel to it not that far away from Utica Avenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted July 3, 2016 Share #415 Posted July 3, 2016 Hopefully that's not the case. I'd hope most people in the area would have at least heard of a "Select Bus Service", as the B44 SBS runs parallel to it not that far away from Utica Avenue. But do they know that the SBS stops short of WBP? I believe this is the first SBS to just cleave off a chunk of its route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick44 Posted July 3, 2016 Share #416 Posted July 3, 2016 There's slightly less confusion than the B44 SBS so far (I'm on the first trip north and south, which happens to be the same bus, 7314) but it's okay. I don't live in the areas to see the effect. But one person got on and got off the northbound trip pissed because it didn't go to WBP. And the people assisting in helping the confused customers out aren't asking them where they're headed, which is leaving people pissed off as to why the bus won't stop where they're going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick44 Posted July 3, 2016 Share #417 Posted July 3, 2016 Another hilarious issue is: Bus operators relief point is Fillmore Av, and there's no SBS stop there. I say add the stop. Plus the usual issue of "Local comes first, I already got a ticket". Drivers on the local don't know that they are supposed to cross-honor the SBS tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegoBrickBreaker101 Posted July 3, 2016 Share #418 Posted July 3, 2016 Another hilarious issue is: Bus operators relief point is Fillmore Av, and there's no SBS stop there. I say add the stop. Plus the usual issue of "Local comes first, I already got a ticket". Drivers on the local don't know that they are supposed to cross-honor the SBS tickets. Yeah, on Bustime, it lists the stop as "Non-Public, For Reliefs". They really should just have added that stop there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAlam Posted July 3, 2016 Share #419 Posted July 3, 2016 Yeah, on Bustime, it lists the stop as "Non-Public, For Reliefs". They really should just have added that stop there... it probably for depo supervisors, that where they switch drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegoBrickBreaker101 Posted July 3, 2016 Share #420 Posted July 3, 2016 it probably for depo supervisors, that where they switch drivers. Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted July 3, 2016 Share #421 Posted July 3, 2016 Plus the usual issue of "Local comes first, I already got a ticket". Drivers on the local don't know that they are supposed to cross-honor the SBS tickets. ...is part of the reason why I will not be taking the SBS if I'm heading to Kings Plaza (from home).... I'll just take the 2 minute walk to the snyder av stop, wait for the local & call it a day... Not walking up to Church to have to worry about something that wasn't an issue prior, now being so.... The only real use I'll have for the new service now, is if I take the Q24 from Jamaica to the last stop & walk over to Dekalb for the B46..... Or, if I happen to catch a BM2 (where I get off at Utica).... Otherwise, it's the local for me (including when I take the B32 from Queens to WBP for the B46).... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted July 5, 2016 Author Share #422 Posted July 5, 2016 Well this was the first business day for the new B46 SBS, and my preliminary grade for the route is a B-. There was mass confusion as thousands of people had no clue as to what was going on. At 42 minutes, I must admit it's one of the fastest trips yet from Kings Plaza to Dekalb. My southbound trips however seem to be a bit faster. As for the B46 Local, it gets an F. The reliability has decreased severely in just as little as 3 days.... All day has been the same complaints. I was also on hand to witness them once again..... 6 SBS, 1 local, 4 SBS, 1 local, 8 SBS, 2 local.... Absolutely ridiculous. As I mentioned before this started if they did not have a good number local short turns, the reliability would decrease. All the buses are getting caught up on Broadway and its jacking the locals up in both directions.... So for all the people who need B46 local runs... Good luck with that! Someone really dropped the ball on this one, and if that schedule is not adjusted fast, there are going to be major problems, and complaints to follow. Overall the SBS side has great potential. My favorite stops are Fulton and Eastern Parkway. No more missing 2-3 traffic lights because we are waiting to board passengers! For the local, again it was doomed from day one as I said months ago... My only question is why to this day there is still such a disconnect between Operations Planning and "The Real World?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted July 5, 2016 Share #423 Posted July 5, 2016 My only question is what to this day there is still suck a disconnect between Operations Planning and "The Real World?" Seems to be the problem with most of the routes... I also think that local bus service on these SBS lines is purposely screwed to force people to take the SBS. Think about it... Fewer people using the local buses means they can cut service and then see if they can get savings with the SBS trips. I'm serious... I've noticed a similar situation with the M15... Buses bunch terribly, and then you get a plethora of M15SBS buses and one local bus if that. This happened years ago with the 5th Avenue and Madison Avenue lines... All you would see is limited stop buses and very few local buses. I imagine people raised hell and now you see the opposite... Mainly local buses and few limited stop buses. I'm telling you, that's the way the thinks, and if they don't, well their actions sure as hell say otherwise. SBS is a backhanded way to cut local bus service. I think the wants to find ways to truncate routes and reduce the number of stops where possible, and SBS allows them to just that, albeit unofficially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious2train Posted July 6, 2016 Share #424 Posted July 6, 2016 Well this was the first business day for the new B46 SBS, and my preliminary grade for the route is a B-. There was mass confusion as thousands of people had no clue as to what was going on. At 42 minutes, I must admit it's one of the fastest trips yet from Kings Plaza to Dekalb. My southbound trips however seem to be a bit faster. As for the B46 Local, it gets an F. The reliability has decreased severely in just as little as 3 days.... All day has been the same complaints. I was also on hand to witness them once again..... 6 SBS, 1 local, 4 SBS, 1 local, 8 SBS, 2 local.... Absolutely ridiculous. As I mentioned before this started if they did not have a good number local short turns, the reliability would decrease. All the buses are getting caught up on Broadway and its jacking the locals up in both directions.... So for all the people who need B46 local runs... Good luck with that! Someone really dropped the ball on this one, and if that schedule is not adjusted fast, there are going to be major problems, and complaints to follow. Overall the SBS side has great potential. My favorite stops are Fulton and Eastern Parkway. No more missing 2-3 traffic lights because we are waiting to board passengers! For the local, again it was doomed from day one as I said months ago... My only question is why to this day there is still such a disconnect between Operations Planning and "The Real World?" Nice, sounds similar to the decline of the B44 local when SBS started. It took almost 3 months before the B44 local got the service increase it really needed, let's hope the B46 local doesn't have to wait that long. On the other hand, the M15 SBS (not local, granted) got an adjusted schedule just 3 weeks after service started. I was surprised to see DeKalb Av short-turns all gone from the local schedule. Needless to say disfiguring local service for SBS is considered an acceptable sacrifice by the MTA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTA Bus Posted July 6, 2016 Share #425 Posted July 6, 2016 Well this was the first business day for the new B46 SBS, and my preliminary grade for the route is a B-. There was mass confusion as thousands of people had no clue as to what was going on. At 42 minutes, I must admit it's one of the fastest trips yet from Kings Plaza to Dekalb. My southbound trips however seem to be a bit faster. As for the B46 Local, it gets an F. The reliability has decreased severely in just as little as 3 days.... All day has been the same complaints. I was also on hand to witness them once again..... 6 SBS, 1 local, 4 SBS, 1 local, 8 SBS, 2 local.... Absolutely ridiculous. As I mentioned before this started if they did not have a good number local short turns, the reliability would decrease. All the buses are getting caught up on Broadway and its jacking the locals up in both directions.... So for all the people who need B46 local runs... Good luck with that! Someone really dropped the ball on this one, and if that schedule is not adjusted fast, there are going to be major problems, and complaints to follow. Overall the SBS side has great potential. My favorite stops are Fulton and Eastern Parkway. No more missing 2-3 traffic lights because we are waiting to board passengers! For the local, again it was doomed from day one as I said months ago... My only question is why to this day there is still such a disconnect between Operations Planning and "The Real World?" I was at Eastern Parkway today around 5:00 and I noticed how many SBS buses came at like one time. Three southbound buses would come then 4 northbound buses would come. I think that a little too much service for me. I know it's a heavy line but it seems like overkill to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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