Unplanned Subway Service Changes

[biGC323232]

So here's why the was messed up yesterday.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/brooklyn/brooklyn-water-main-break-subway-delays-closes-businesses-article-1.2987612?utm_content=buffera3e2d&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Oh wow...Good thing the   was about to go over the  to finish its route....

[checkmatechamp13]

Well if it's not cleared by 8:30 PM, Dekalb Avenue is going to have fun having 5 lines sharing the same track northbound.

 

Hold on, which lines would those be? You have the running over those tracks as usual, then the merging like it was earlier in the day, and then the bypassing DeKalb like they normally do.

 

I can't think of an extra line or merge that happens at 8:30, unless I'm missing something (serious question)?

[Around the Horn]

Hold on, which lines would those be? You have the running over those tracks as usual, then the merging like it was earlier in the day, and then the bypassing DeKalb like they normally do.

 

I can't think of an extra line or merge that happens at 8:30, unless I'm missing something (serious question)?

 

There's an train GO where service ends earlier than normal (about 10 ish), with no service at all between 10pm and 5am, so maybe the start running local earlier?

[TheNewYorkElevated]

Had to take the M100 and then the train to school today because the train was delayed. I wonder what happened this morning...

[agar io]

So here's why the was messed up yesterday.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/brooklyn/brooklyn-water-main-break-subway-delays-closes-businesses-article-1.2987612?utm_content=buffera3e2d&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

 

A little late to the game, but I heard something at Fulton Center/Cortlandt St station yesterday. It went a little like "There is no service at this station, for service to Brooklyn and Queens take the to Canal Street and transfer to the ".

 

It also mentioned the water main break, though. Now I know what that's about. Thanks for the link.

The congestion was so bad, though, I actually took the PATH (!) from 23 St to Cortlandt St/WTC.

Edited March 4, 2017 by agar io

[PATCOman]

Hold on, which lines would those be? You have the running over those tracks as usual, then the merging like it was earlier in the day, and then the bypassing DeKalb like they normally do.

 

I can't think of an extra line or merge that happens at 8:30, unless I'm missing something (serious question)?

The D and N went local on 4 Avenue to make room for work trains.

[Daniel The Cool]

There's an train GO where service ends earlier than normal (about 10 ish), with no service at all between 10pm and 5am, so maybe the start running local earlier?

Nope. The reason is the Concourse Fastrack is going on and the work trains for the Fastrack travels on the express tracks. 

 

Same thing will be going on this upcoming week as well.

[R42N]

This is a really tough one. service is suspended as well. 

 

Might have to keep those ’s running in Manhattan/Queens or extend the via QBL in the overnight hours if this doesn’t get fixed soon. 

 

 

Service Change   Posted: 03/04/2017 11:06PM

Due to a NYPD investigation at 36 Av, there is no  train service between Astoria-Ditmars Blvd and 57-7Av in both directions.

As an alternative, for 5 Av and Lexington Av-59 St, take  train service instead. 

For Queensboro Plaza, take  trains to nearby Queens Plaza. 

For 39 Av, 36 Av, Broadway, 30 Av, Astoria Blvd and Ditmars Blvd, take  train to Queens Plaza for Q69, Q100 or Q102bus service making nearby  train stops.

Allow additional travel time.

https://twitter.com/NYCityAlerts/status/838225802206527489

 

Edited March 5, 2017 by R42N

[MysteriousBtrain]

This is like the fifth time I've seen something new on service changes/delays I believe.

 

Delays Posted: 03/05/2017 12:00PM

Due to signal problems at York St, northbound , and trains running with delays.

Some northbound trains will run on the line from Bergen St to Court Sq and then on the line to Jackson Hts-Roosevelt Av.

Note: Maintainers are on the scene at York St, working to correct the situation. We will keep you update.

Allow additional travel time.

Edited March 5, 2017 by ShadeJay

[Wallyhorse]

 

This is a really tough one. service is suspended as well. 

 

Might have to keep those ’s running in Manhattan/Queens or extend the via QBL in the overnight hours if this doesn’t get fixed soon. 

 

 

Service Change   Posted: 03/04/2017 11:06PM

Due to a NYPD investigation at 36 Av, there is no  train service between Astoria-Ditmars Blvd and 57-7Av in both directions.

As an alternative, for 5 Av and Lexington Av-59 St, take  train service instead. 

 

For Queensboro Plaza, take  trains to nearby Queens Plaza. 

For 39 Av, 36 Av, Broadway, 30 Av, Astoria Blvd and Ditmars Blvd, take  train to Queens Plaza for Q69, Q100 or Q102bus service making nearby  train stops.

Allow additional travel time.

https://twitter.com/NYCityAlerts/status/838225802206527489

 

 

Wouldn't it have made more sense to have the go to Lexington-60th and did a quick turnaround OR followed the to 96th-2nd?  This is why not building 72nd/2nd with three tracks was a mistake, that third track could have been sorely used for something like this.

[Daniel The Cool]

Service Change  Posted: 03/06/2017  7:58AM 
 

Due to ongoing Sandy repair work at Chambers St, the following service changes are in effect:

There is no  train service between 168 St and Euclid Av in both directions.  

 trains are running local between 168 St and 59 St-Columbus Circle southbound.

Northbound  trains are running on the  line from Jay St-Metrotech to W 4 St-Wash Sq.  

Customers are advised to use ,   , , ,  ,    and  train service.

Expect delays and congestion along the  line in both directions.

[RR503]

What happened this AM on the , , , lines???

Edited March 6, 2017 by RR503

[Around the Horn]

What happened this AM on the , , , lines???

Delays because of:

1. Emergency track work near Chambers Street

2. No trains due to said track work

3. Delayed and rerouted local trains via Delancey Street

4. Delayed trains, with some via Crosstown due to said trains

5. Delayed trains due to said rerouted trains

[Lance]

Wouldn't it have made more sense to have the go to Lexington-60th and did a quick turnaround OR followed the to 96th-2nd?  This is why not building 72nd/2nd with three tracks was a mistake, that third track could have been sorely used for something like this.

I wouldn't be surprised if those trains actually did run to 96 Street. Obviously, they cannot turn trains at 57 St-7 Av with continuous service in the way, which on a side note is why the wouldn't be able to terminate at Lexington Av. The service alert only states there is no normal service north of 57 Street. There is nothing stating where those trains were running to/from, possibly for fear of information overload. 

 

What happened this AM on the , , , lines???

Weekend work overruns at Chambers St and a signal malfunction at Jay St.

[Wallyhorse]

I wouldn't be surprised if those trains actually did run to 96 Street. Obviously, they cannot turn trains at 57 St-7 Av with continuous service in the way, which on a side note is why the wouldn't be able to terminate at Lexington Av. The service alert only states there is no normal service north of 57 Street. There is nothing stating where those trains were running to/from, possibly for fear of information overload. 

That is true, but I was more thinking what if the was NOT running by that point.  Then, Lexington Avenue could have been used as a terminal since the would have been a non-factor (and even if so, you could always have had the run as express or move to the express track at 57th/7th and run via 63rd, stopping at Queensbridge and added a shuttle bus between Queensbridge and Queens and Queensboro Plaza (and if needed, a second shuttle bus between Queens Plaza and 36th).

[BDNQ2345]

Delays Posted: 03/06/2017 9:41PM

Due to animal safety at 161 St-Yankee Stadium, trains are delayed in both directions.

Allow additional travel time

[CTK246]

So we've been put under a blizzard watch for Tuesday. Forecast is 12"-18". Think the will do a full shutdown?

[Wallyhorse]

So we've been put under a blizzard watch for Tuesday. Forecast is 12"-18". Think the will do a full shutdown?

They didn't last year when we got 28" of snow (just missing the record for one storm) with the underground portions remaining open.

 

There was so much blowback two years ago when Cuomo ordered the whole system shutdown (that I believe was politically motivated out of fear that someone at the would go rogue and create a problem similar to the 2010 blizzard that would hurt Cuomo if he had run for President in 2016, with that blowback including Wall Street as I remember getting severely PO'ed) that I seriously doubt Cuomo would try that again, especially if such would PO the new President (as I would think Trump would not be pleased).  Cuomo right now to me is the likely frontrunner for 2020 and unlike other opponents, Trump would probably use a subway shutdown against Cuomo, especially if like two years ago Wall Street happened to have a repeat or worse of what happened when Cuomo did it (Dow lost 275 points that day and it was blamed in a lot of circles by the shutdown with many not able to get to their desks).  

[Around the Horn]

They didn't last year when we got 28" of snow (just missing the record for one storm) with the underground portions remaining open.

 

There was so much blowback two years ago when Cuomo ordered the whole system shutdown (that I believe was politically motivated out of fear that someone at the would go rogue and create a problem similar to the 2010 blizzard that would hurt Cuomo if he had run for President in 2016, with that blowback including Wall Street as I remember getting severely PO'ed) that I seriously doubt Cuomo would try that again, especially if such would PO the new President (as I would think Trump would not be pleased).  Cuomo right now to me is the likely frontrunner for 2020 and unlike other opponents, Trump would probably use a subway shutdown against Cuomo, especially if like two years ago Wall Street happened to have a repeat or worse of what happened when Cuomo did it (Dow lost 275 points that day and it was blamed in a lot of circles by the shutdown with many not able to get to their desks).  

 

We've already explained why this narrative is false...

 

Seriously, your blaming the Dow losing 275 points on the subway?!

[Fresh Pond]

Preliminary plans (as always subject to change) show a Plan 5 happening.

 

In a nutshell, all outdoor platforms will be shut down and trains will be terminating at the closest underground station.

[P3F]

Preliminary plans (as always subject to change) show a Plan 5 happening.

 

In a nutshell, all outdoor platforms will be shut down and trains will be terminating at the closest underground station.

Would the LIRR shut down as well?

[Lawrence St]

It must be really hard providing service during snowstorms considering the fact 125th is an outdoor station.

[Wallyhorse]

Preliminary plans (as always subject to change) show a Plan 5 happening.

 

In a nutshell, all outdoor platforms will be shut down and trains will be terminating at the closest underground station.

Which is exactly what will happen now officially.

 

Not a surprise, it's basically the same as last year.  

[HenryB]

http://newqa.mta.info/sites/default/files/mta/2017_winterguide_subway_map_b_with_2_av_subway_1-26-17.pdf

 

Don't know why is still running...... they could just extend to 59st (BKLN) and not have running

[Lawrence St]

So a train in the morning opened the doors on the wrong side of the doors at Broadway Junction (this was at the island platform) and continued off. Lot of people were mad.