Bosco Posted July 15, 2019 Share #1326 Posted July 15, 2019 On 7/7/2019 at 8:28 PM, Metro CSW said: But no. It's going by a particular, realistic schedule if there's no delays. There's no reason to truly rush to process. Kawasaki has done a good job so far based on their track record, I guess.... No jinxing! On 7/7/2019 at 6:05 PM, trainfan22 said: I wonder if we will get three pilot trains at the same time.. One pilot 10 car set for NYCT One 8 car set for NYCT And a pilot train for SIR. Was there three pilot trains in the early stages of the 160 order? I know Kawasaki and Astlom each had an 10 car pliot train but I'm not sure when the first 8 car set came. We should at least get one pilot set each for NYCT and SIR at the same time IMO. Per the information that was provided in the staff summary in January 2018, we are not getting all three pilot trains at once. R211A 10-Car (30 months from NOA, or July 2020) R211T 10-Car (40 months from NOA, or May 2021) R211S 5-Car (47 months from NOA, or December 2021) The R211s are being designed for 4-, 5-, or 6-car configurations (similar to R160) but there are no plans for 4-car R211s, at least not yet. I don't know about the R160 pilot trains, but I want to say the first 8-car set 8313-8320 was not a pilot train because it has the knurled stainless steel on the car ends and window masks that the pilot R160 trains (8653-8662, 8713-8722) don't have. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted July 15, 2019 Share #1327 Posted July 15, 2019 17 hours ago, Bosco said: The R211s are being designed for 4-, 5-, or 6-car configurations (similar to R160) but there are no plans for 4-car R211s, at least not yet. 6-car configurations? The configuration of the second option order as 437 cars in 89 sets means that there would have to be 81 five-car sets, totaling 405 cars, plus 8 four-car sets, totaling 32 cars. Are you saying that the plans have changed? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted July 15, 2019 Share #1328 Posted July 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Union Tpke said: 6-car configurations? Yeah all the NTTs are designed to operate in 4 and 6 car consists just in case. 1 hour ago, Union Tpke said: The configuration of the second option order as 437 cars in 89 sets means that there would have to be 81 five-car sets, totaling 405 cars, plus 8 four-car sets, totaling 32 cars. Are you saying that the plans have changed? Until the MTA officially exercises that option, there are "no plans" for 4 car R211s. It's just semantics really. That's also why the press release only mentioned the base 535 cars IIRC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted July 15, 2019 Share #1329 Posted July 15, 2019 13 minutes ago, Around the Horn said: Yeah all the NTTs are designed to operate in 4 and 6 car consists just in case. Until the MTA officially exercises that option, there are "no plans" for 4 car R211s. It's just semantics really. That's also why the press release only mentioned the base 535 cars IIRC. The thing is that the MTA has rarely, ever, not exercised an option. Those additional cars are needed. I am 99% confident that those cars will be ordered. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted July 19, 2019 Share #1330 Posted July 19, 2019 (edited) CAB SIGNALING FOR THE R211S Screen Shot 2019-07-19 at 2.47.57 PM by Union Turnpike, on Flickr Screen Shot 2019-07-19 at 2.48.17 PM by Union Turnpike, on Flickr Edited July 19, 2019 by Union Tpke 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted October 2, 2019 Share #1331 Posted October 2, 2019 On 7/15/2019 at 6:11 PM, Union Tpke said: The thing is that the MTA has rarely, ever, not exercised an option. Those additional cars are needed. I am 99% confident that those cars will be ordered. there gonna do the option orders, its likely that these 4 car units will go to the for increased service and high spare factor since the will need a large chunk of R160's for Queens cbtc and increased spare factor for the and 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted October 2, 2019 Share #1332 Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) Still can't get over the fact that this entire order isn't open gangway... Especially with how the media done told the entire NYC the next generation of cars will have open gangway. An "option" shouldn't have been so media publicized. Edited October 2, 2019 by XcelsiorBoii4888 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCTNostalgia Posted October 3, 2019 Share #1333 Posted October 3, 2019 20 hours ago, XcelsiorBoii4888 said: Still can't get over the fact that this entire order isn't open gangway... Especially with how the media done told the entire NYC the next generation of cars will have open gangway. An "option" shouldn't have been so media publicized. The made it pretty clear that they were only going to order a 1 test set of open gangway R211's & I understand their reasoning. They want to test the technology before it's fully utilized, sorta like the R110A/B order. I remember seeing that the reason somewhere that started this trend of ordering test sets was to to avoid the disaster that was the R44/46 order back in the 70's. They realized the new technology at the time (75' cars) should have been tested before being put into production. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted October 5, 2019 Share #1334 Posted October 5, 2019 When would a 6 car B Division set even be useful? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B22viaAtlanticAv Posted October 5, 2019 Share #1335 Posted October 5, 2019 2 hours ago, bobtehpanda said: When would a 6 car B Division set even be useful? to make 11-car sets for IND stations that are long enough... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayFan3000 Posted October 8, 2019 Share #1336 Posted October 8, 2019 On 10/2/2019 at 3:50 PM, R32 3838 said: there gonna do the option orders, its likely that these 4 car units will go to the for increased service and high spare factor since the will need a large chunk of R160's for Queens cbtc and increased spare factor for the and is all R160's and They don't Need More. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34bluebird Posted October 8, 2019 Share #1337 Posted October 8, 2019 They should put some R160 on (G). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlem Crosstown Posted October 16, 2019 Share #1338 Posted October 16, 2019 On 10/8/2019 at 11:56 AM, 34bluebird said: They should put some R160 on (G). Not exactly in the recent loop in terms of car movement but I think the is getting R179s or R160s from one of the yards that’s getting R211s. Have the R211s‘ destinations been announced yet? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Playz Posted October 17, 2019 Share #1339 Posted October 17, 2019 On 2/15/2016 at 8:58 AM, Union Tpke said: R32 3348, 3350–3949 R38 3950–4149 R40 4150–4349 R40A 4350–4549 R42 4550–4949 R44 5202–5479 R46 5482–6207, Even #s 6208 – 6258 R68 2500–2924 R68A 5001–5200 R143 8101–8312 R160 8313–9974 R179 3001-3300 R211 3301–4315? It's not for the R179 3300. It's 3001-3319. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplyMyself Posted October 17, 2019 Share #1340 Posted October 17, 2019 6 hours ago, Tyler Playz said: It's not for the R179 3300. It's 3001-3319. The R179’s are numbered 3010-3327. Also that comment was from three years ago, so some of that information is no longer accurate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted October 18, 2019 Share #1341 Posted October 18, 2019 Yikes! You quoted a post of mine from over three years ago. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I love NY Posted November 9, 2019 Share #1342 Posted November 9, 2019 The trains with these new R211cars can have 9/10 cars? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJLilFace222 Posted November 15, 2019 Share #1343 Posted November 15, 2019 On 4/18/2019 at 12:53 PM, beelinefan said: the r32s cannot go on the they are banned from the montague tunnel The Does not go that way mind you, the does, the R32s were on the one day and ran via the Manhattan Bridge. So the R32s can be on the for a farewell ceremony. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted November 16, 2019 Share #1344 Posted November 16, 2019 4 hours ago, DJLilFace222 said: The Does not go that way mind you, the does, the R32s were on the one day and ran via the Manhattan Bridge. So the R32s can be on the for a farewell ceremony. That R32 was during the Montague tunnel closure so they only route from Manhattan to Brooklyn was the bridge. Now that both bridge and tunnel are open, R32s are banned from all of the Broadway lines due to the possibility of reroutes through the tunnel. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted November 18, 2019 Share #1345 Posted November 18, 2019 On 11/15/2019 at 11:01 PM, Around the Horn said: That R32 was during the Montague tunnel closure so they only route from Manhattan to Brooklyn was the bridge. Now that both bridge and tunnel are open, R32s are banned from all of the Broadway lines due to the possibility of reroutes through the tunnel. Did they not fix this problem like 3 years ago already? Don't almost all the garbage trains use R32 sets and utilize the Nassau connection to Montauge? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subway4832 Posted November 21, 2019 Share #1346 Posted November 21, 2019 On 11/18/2019 at 6:16 PM, Lawrence St said: Did they not fix this problem like 3 years ago already? Don't almost all the garbage trains use R32 sets and utilize the Nassau connection to Montauge? AFAIK, the clearance problem in Montague still remains. Most of those garbage trains that traverse broadway don't use R32's, they use R127/134's most of the time. If it happens to use a 32, it will most likely go via the Bridge. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted November 25, 2019 Share #1347 Posted November 25, 2019 I thought they only used the 32s on the trash runs for the air conditioning. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted December 18, 2019 Share #1348 Posted December 18, 2019 Another leaked photo, just like the 160 from the side... 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emil Posted December 18, 2019 Share #1349 Posted December 18, 2019 1 hour ago, trainfan22 said: Another leaked photo, just like the 160 from the side... excuse my foaming here, but oh my GOD. now that you said R160 I already pictured the and I got turned off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted December 18, 2019 Share #1350 Posted December 18, 2019 1 hour ago, trainfan22 said: Another leaked photo, just like the 160 from the side... Looks like the placement of the full color LCD screen is mirroring the placement of the rollsigns on the R68As 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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