Far Rock Depot Posted September 10, 2016 Share #2776 Posted September 10, 2016 (edited) [ One of the more interesting things I never can understand with these things is why, despite the fact we are forbidden to use the "left door open" controls on the console, they continue to be included on all new orders. Wondering if this is a standard feature on most contracts for non-NYC, and if the manufacturer insists on including it to keep costs down. Even instructors at school car pointed this out Sent from my SM-N920P using Tapatalk Edited September 10, 2016 by Far Rock Depot 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTA1992 Posted September 10, 2016 Share #2777 Posted September 10, 2016 Where did you get they are CBTC-equipped?I remember hearing at the recent board meetings that every train R179 and newer will arrive CBTC ready. I believe it was in either May or June when they were asking a billion questions about the Corona and QBL CBTC projects. Sent from my N9132 using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Flxible Posted September 10, 2016 Share #2778 Posted September 10, 2016 Interior: Image: Jvoan Samuel 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted September 10, 2016 Share #2779 Posted September 10, 2016 Quite frankly I don't care what you think. You think I guessed every single correct answer for how many questions? Exactly. News flash: no one gives a flying crap. Stop crowding the thread with bullshit. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewYorkElevated Posted September 10, 2016 Share #2780 Posted September 10, 2016 News flash: no one gives a flying crap. Stop crowding the thread with bullshit. Thank you. Other than that, I am excited to see the R179's in testing soon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted September 10, 2016 Share #2781 Posted September 10, 2016 I'm not crowding this thread will Bulls hit I'm giving actual facts about the Damm car fleet. Sheesh. Moving on from this discussion, 3015-3019 should be here by next week. Interior: Image: Jvoan Samuel Where did you get that from? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick44 Posted September 10, 2016 Share #2782 Posted September 10, 2016 It's in the image. Jvoan Samuel's Facebook. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m7zanr160s Posted September 10, 2016 Share #2783 Posted September 10, 2016 :lol: :lol: Seeing as I've been in the train and walked around, I'm not too concerned about what somebody made for BVE... They are set up for CBTC with all relevant controls, circuit breakers, secondary TOD screen, and ATO start. Whether or not they are "equipped" is a software issue not visible to the naked eye on a just delivered train. One of the more interesting things I never can understand with these things is why, despite the fact we are forbidden to use the "left door open" controls on the console, they continue to be included on all new orders. Wondering if this is a standard feature on most contracts for non-NYC, and if the manufacturer insists on including it to keep costs down. Is that because that's the side you can't see at the time? And is there anything that keeps conductors from opening that side by accident? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted September 10, 2016 Share #2784 Posted September 10, 2016 They are set up for CBTC with all relevant controls, circuit breakers, secondary TOD screen, and ATO start. Whether or not they are "equipped" is a software issue not visible to the naked eye on a just delivered train. One of the more interesting things I never can understand with these things is why, despite the fact we are forbidden to use the "left door open" controls on the console, they continue to be included on all new orders. Wondering if this is a standard feature on most contracts for non-NYC, and if the manufacturer insists on including it to keep costs down. What I understood, was that this was a provision for a system that would include cameras that would allow the T/O to open either side without getting up and going to the other side. (Like LRV's have). My first thing, was, that's what the extra TOD screen could be used for, but then I was told that would have to add a new screen (which would be placed up, like near the sun visor or something). Not sure when, or if they are ever going to go with that, but they do include the capability to allow the possibility of doing that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted September 10, 2016 Share #2785 Posted September 10, 2016 Interior: Image: Jvoan Samuel It's a little dark for me to tell but it looks like an R160 (well, obviously lol) for the most part. Oh well, probably will take a better look and catch this on the when it hits service next year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted September 10, 2016 Share #2786 Posted September 10, 2016 Is it me or are the passenger window frames a bit bigger? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted September 10, 2016 Share #2787 Posted September 10, 2016 Where are the locks for the individual door leafs? I only see the lights for each leaf and no keyhole. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dj Hammers Posted September 10, 2016 Share #2788 Posted September 10, 2016 One of the more interesting things I never can understand with these things is why, despite the fact we are forbidden to use the "left door open" controls on the console, they continue to be included on all new orders. Wondering if this is a standard feature on most contracts for non-NYC, and if the manufacturer insists on including it to keep costs down.This has been actively spec'd for on all NTT orders. In the future, policy can change and those could be used. Not gonna say much more in a public forum. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted September 10, 2016 Share #2789 Posted September 10, 2016 This has been actively spec'd for on all NTT orders. In the future, policy can change and those could be used. Not gonna say much more in a public forum. I'd assume this left door close button, if used, would be used for OPTO? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted September 10, 2016 Share #2790 Posted September 10, 2016 Is that because that's the side you can't see at the time? And is there anything that keeps conductors from opening that side by accident? The left door open is designed for T/O's in OPTO service to open the offside from the console. It is NOT for the conductor. Current policy is for OPTO T/O's not to use it. It's also unclear exactly how it works (as a procedure), because there is no associated close control other than turning the key which is a complete no no. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R179 8258 Posted September 10, 2016 Share #2791 Posted September 10, 2016 Just passed 207 St Yard. They have a locomotive in front of the first 5 car set maybe it going to be towed soon to pitkin yard 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted September 10, 2016 Share #2792 Posted September 10, 2016 Interior: Image: Jvoan Samuel Hold on a second did they already install the arts for transit on the R179's? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegoBrickBreaker101 Posted September 10, 2016 Share #2793 Posted September 10, 2016 Hold on a second did they already install the arts for transit on the R179's? And they have ads as well. Wonder why, seeing as how they're not going to be in service until next year... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech And Transit Posted September 10, 2016 Share #2794 Posted September 10, 2016 Hold on a second did they already install the arts for transit on the R179's? It's in the photo.. Video of the 179 in 207th: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kExRIpWFbt8 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted September 11, 2016 Share #2795 Posted September 11, 2016 (edited) The interiors look like R142s and the bottom of the trucks are different and the heaters are different...Also these cars look like they have R160B - Like shells. The single Corrugation along the truck is thicker. (As far as I can notice from pictures) Edited September 11, 2016 by VIP 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted September 11, 2016 Share #2796 Posted September 11, 2016 New video of the interior: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB5FX-94f9Y Courtesy: Trainkid kris 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bstar1 Posted September 11, 2016 Share #2797 Posted September 11, 2016 Either the doors or window frames look wider than R160 and similar to R142. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted September 11, 2016 Share #2798 Posted September 11, 2016 Can someone explain what's going on with the ad's inside the car? Wouldn't the ad contract expire while the train was testing? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted September 11, 2016 Share #2799 Posted September 11, 2016 I'm shocked the TA didn't put a padlock key on the storm door so people couldn't go inside. In that video I noticed they now have ad space on the wall that separates the cab from the area the passengers ride. On the 160s that area is just bare metal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted September 11, 2016 Share #2800 Posted September 11, 2016 (edited) The left door open is designed for T/O's in OPTO service to open the offside from the console. It is NOT for the conductor. Current policy is for OPTO T/O's not to use it. It's also unclear exactly how it works (as a procedure), because there is no associated close control other than turning the key which is a complete no no. Sure there is a close button. It's under the open button (you can see that on the 179 video, where it's the same. But don't feel bad. I'm just now recently realizing there's another buzzer button right above that). Edited September 11, 2016 by Eric B 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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