SUBWAY - Random Thoughts Topic

[Daniel The Cool]

1 hour ago, RR503 said:

Totally unrelated, but does anyone have/know where I could find older (1990s) subway schedules? Am now curious to see how runtimes have changed. 

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[RR503]

1 hour ago, Union Tpke said:

I have. Perhaps next week when I have school off I can take pictures of some of them. Give me specific routes, and I'll see what I can get.

I think Daniel's link covers it.

Buuuuut... if you have  or  train timetables from the early 90s....could I get a peek?

[R42N]

4 hours ago, Around the Horn said:

This roster sheet only lists the official in-service assignments, hence the  only having 12 R42s and there only being 3 R68s on the  and no mention of the R160  or R143  

The thing with the  is just a column error... the R68A line should say zero.

You are right about the R42, but the  and  regularly has four trains in Queens alone. There are five sets dedicated to the  and , and often more (and sometimes less) when things happen with the R160. 

[Lance]

The posted car assignments are a guideline of what is expected to be needed for normal rush hour service, based on the various observations by car equipment (or whatever relevant department). They are not meant to be a strict indication of what will run on a particular line. Railroad and car conditions and mostly will call for necessary adjustments to the daily car assignments, resulting in such instances as the 160s on the or the 143s on the .

[Union Tpke]

17 hours ago, RR503 said:

I think Daniel's link covers it.

Buuuuut... if you have  or  train timetables from the early 90s....could I get a peek?

I have some A timetables from 1992–1994. 5 train timetables didn't come out until 1997 or so. I can definitely take some pictures of the A.

[RR503]

Thank you!!! That’d be great! 

[S78 via Hylan]

I finally caught an R46  earlier. It's good that they're back.

[Bosco]

On 12/20/2017 at 6:29 PM, RR503 said:

Some high school kid got on the MTA's case re timers

https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2017/12/20/to-improve-subway-service-get-rid-of-the-unnecessary-signals-slowing-trains-down/

I remember a few years ago, the  and  northbound used to fly into 96 St.  Now I understand the northbound express track dips a little, as opposed to the local track which stays level, but trains often slow down to 10MPH on a straight track.  That dip (around 91 St) isn't even that significant.  I've missed countless connections to the  because of this (and the  always flies into that station).  Also, CBTC would be so much better than these timers; they account for safety and decrease runtimes.

[Around the Horn]

Paging @Skipper...

Rumor has it that the transfer passageway and new entrances at the World Trade Center will open this Thursday

[Calvin]

Most of the time I get on a Downtown, it has to bypass a few stops. 

[Porter]

10 hours ago, Around the Horn said:

Paging @Skipper...

Rumor has it that the transfer passageway and new entrances at the World Trade Center will open this Thursday

Thanks for the heads up! Unfortunately, I won't be around, but I'm hoping a good Samaritan with a camera might be...

[LGA Link N Train]

On 12/20/2017 at 6:29 PM, RR503 said:

Some high school kid got on the MTA's case re timers

https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2017/12/20/to-improve-subway-service-get-rid-of-the-unnecessary-signals-slowing-trains-down/

First off, I'M A HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT. 

Second, I have a friend in school who complained about timers on the line so that something 

But I do see the issue here.

Edited December 23, 2017 by LGA Link N train

[quadcorder]

3 hours ago, Skipper said:

Thanks for the heads up! Unfortunately, I won't be around, but I'm hoping a good Samaritan with a camera might be...

I'll swing by on NYE if nobody hits it before me.

21 minutes ago, LGA Link N train said:

First off, I'M A HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT. 

Second, I have a friend in school who complained about timers on the line so that something 

But I do see the issue here.

Chill - I don't think "high school kid" was meant as an insult.

[VIP]

On 12/21/2017 at 10:23 PM, S78 via Hylan said:

I finally caught an R46  earlier. It's good that they're back.

Seeing more R32’s at random on the  reminds me of the good ol days when R38’s were a regular thing for the  as for The R46’s on the  along with R160’s, it’s  still unusual to me.

[FlushingExpress]

On 12/23/2017 at 12:37 AM, Calvin said:

Most of the time I get on a Downtown, it has to bypass a few stops. 

Blame those crappy R62As. Their narrower doors and hard to understand announcements are causing trains to sit at stations a bit longer than usual, which adds up over time. The  needs its NTTs back. I stopped using that train to get to/from Hunter College as a result. Their A/C has also been very bad. They should have stayed on the (7). It has a shorter route and mostly elevated.

Edited December 24, 2017 by FlushingExpress

[quadcorder]

7 hours ago, FlushingExpress said:

Blame those crappy R62As. Their narrower doors and hard to understand announcements are causing trains to sit at stations a bit longer than usual, which adds up over time. The  needs its NTTs back. I stopped using that train to get to/from Hunter College as a result. Their A/C has also been very bad. They should have stayed on the (7). It has a shorter route and mostly elevated.

but it also has CBTC, which requires NTTs...

[R68OnBroadway]

9 hours ago, FlushingExpress said:

Blame those crappy R62As. Their narrower doors and hard to understand announcements are causing trains to sit at stations a bit longer than usual, which adds up over time. The  needs its NTTs back. I stopped using that train to get to/from Hunter College as a result. Their A/C has also been very bad. They should have stayed on the (7). It has a shorter route and mostly elevated.

I'm pretty sure that a lot of their mechanical problems are a result of Westchester shitting on them since they don't have 142As anymore

[VIP]

1 hour ago, R68OnBroadway said:

I'm pretty sure that a lot of their mechanical problems are a result of Westchester shitting on them since they don't have 142As anymore

That makes no sense. They “allegedly” treated their R142A’s like shit because they couldn’t keep up as the  is a busy line and had high car requirements. But also R62A’s are Older and ran on the  before running on the  for so long... they’re bound to have mechanical problems. Let’s not forget  Ridership has grown as well. That’s more wear and tear on those cars. So, The Yard isn’t “shitting on them” because they were given R62A’s that sounds so juvenile and petty. Yard workers are NOT railfans! 

Edited December 25, 2017 by VIP
Consise reasoning

[Daniel The Cool]

22 minutes ago, VIP said:

That makes no sense. They “allegedly” treated their R142A’s like shit because they couldn’t keep up as the  is a busy line and had high car requirements. But also R62A’s are Older and ran on the  before running on the  for so long... they’re bound to have mechanical problems. Let’s not forget  Ridership has grown as well. That’s more wear and tear on those cars. So, The Yard isn’t “shitting on them” because they were given R62A’s that sounds so juvenile and petty. Yard workers are NOT railfans! 

Westchester has a rap sheet for not doing well with its cars even when they had R142As.  

Edited December 25, 2017 by Daniel The Cool

[RR503]

So what is the issue with the 142A fleet? Why is its MDBF so damn low? They’re not *that* different from the 142s, and those have MDBF many time that of the As...

[Jemorie]

59 minutes ago, RR503 said:

So what is the issue with the 142A fleet? Why is its MDBF so damn low? They’re not *that* different from the 142s, and those have MDBF many time that of the As...

Because they run on one of the most heavily used lines in the system?

[trainfan22]

The R68s at their peak put up high MDBF numbers in the mid 2000s and they ran on long busy lines like the

 

 

The R160 MDBF numbers are pretty good and they run on busy lines like the  and the .

 

 

I love the 142A's as a railfan but maybe, just maybe, the cars aren't that good. The  has operated the bulk of the 142A's for quite some time now and the MDBF numbers are still lousy, AFAIK the  train maintenance shop has good maintenance and their Bombardier 142s seem to be in pretty good shape.

 

[Around the Horn]

2 hours ago, VIP said:

That makes no sense. They “allegedly” treated their R142A’s like shit because they couldn’t keep up as the  is a busy line and had high car requirements. But also R62A’s are Older and ran on the  before running on the  for so long... they’re bound to have mechanical problems. Let’s not forget  Ridership has grown as well. That’s more wear and tear on those cars. So, The Yard isn’t “shitting on them” because they were given R62A’s that sounds so juvenile and petty. Yard workers are NOT railfans! 

 

4 hours ago, R68OnBroadway said:

I'm pretty sure that a lot of their mechanical problems are a result of Westchester shitting on them since they don't have 142As anymore

Westchester's problem is purely spare factor. They are forced to run their trains into the ground because of 1. lack of yard space and 2. the large amount of trains needed to run the .

If Livonia has the room, I'd have five additional sets come out of there (like the  to/from Brooklyn) once the new fleet comes in.

[Calvin]

The  use to have a large amount of trains in-service but it now drop down by 5 adding more trains to the Express lines on Lexington Av. and with the  over 2nd Avenue. 

[Calvin]

For the upcoming new years eve celebration, Times Sq is closed until midnight. What time does the shutdown begins?