East New York Posted September 15, 2017 Author Share #1551 Posted September 15, 2017 At least its something other than an Xcelsior We are getting 5 Electric (XE40) Xcelsiors in 90 days as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T J Trainman Posted September 15, 2017 Share #1552 Posted September 15, 2017 To which depot? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted September 15, 2017 Share #1553 Posted September 15, 2017 To which depot?Grand Av will get the Proterras (B32/39), Quill will get the XE40s (M42) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted September 15, 2017 Author Share #1554 Posted September 15, 2017 (edited) Correct. Quill already did driver training on the XD40, so now operations just need to qualify for the XE40, and maintenance has to train on it. Original plans call for the depots to swap fleets about 18 months into the test program, so MTA can evaluate both bus models on the same routes, and gauge how easy or hard it is to transfer buses and chargers within depots and routes. This includes the depot chargers and in-house chargers. This new Bus Test & Evaluation Program will insure a fair competition between Proterra and New Flyer as both buses will operate in the exact same conditions in all seasons. Proterra is now being qualified as the 3rd bus vendor under MTA's New Bus Qualification Program. Those buses should start rolling in in about 90 days or so as well. Edited September 16, 2017 by East New York 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted September 20, 2017 Share #1555 Posted September 20, 2017 I'm looking forward to these new buses, I hope the B32 fleet will be entirety made up of these buses so one don't have to go on a goose chase to find them. B39... meh. I hope with the new scheme the TA will still find a way to put "Clean Air Hybrid Electric Bus" decals on them, always thought that was cool about our Hybrids. Nobody has to go on a goose chase to find them on the B32 because there are only 2 buses at a time there and if you have the correct bus time app you can see the exact fleet number in service on any route in the city. We're only getting 5 buses. The 32 uses 4 buses for the entire line and the 39 uses 1. Nope, 2 buses at a time on the B32. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted September 21, 2017 Share #1556 Posted September 21, 2017 It's kinda late but for those who did not see 5439 yet: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted September 21, 2017 Share #1557 Posted September 21, 2017 It's kinda late but for those who did not see 5439 yet: Now that's a killer photo and amazing wrap on 5439. That's gonna look good in the Bronx and Manhattan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted September 21, 2017 Share #1558 Posted September 21, 2017 It's kinda late but for those who did not see 5439 yet: Is this the same "5439" (just wrapped) or an actual new "5439" wrapped? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegoBrickBreaker101 Posted September 21, 2017 Share #1559 Posted September 21, 2017 Is this the same "5439" (just wrapped) or an actual new "5439" wrapped? Same one 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaTransitMan4608 Posted September 21, 2017 Share #1560 Posted September 21, 2017 It's kinda late but for those who did not see 5439 yet: I take it these are gonna be on the Bx12 and 41 +SBS routes, no? I mean I know KB is set to get these, but they don't have any SBS routes that I know of. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick44 Posted September 21, 2017 Share #1561 Posted September 21, 2017 I believe Gun Hill receiving the XD60’s was indicative of the order switcharoo, since the reason they received them is because the Novas were delayed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R179 8258 Posted September 21, 2017 Share #1562 Posted September 21, 2017 The new Nova scheme looks way better than the XD60s new scheme 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missabassie Posted September 29, 2017 Share #1563 Posted September 29, 2017 On 9/21/2017 at 12:14 PM, MysteriousBtrain said: It's kinda late but for those who did not see 5439 yet: Oooooookkaaaaaay....... well THIS is gonna take some getting used to... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted September 29, 2017 Share #1564 Posted September 29, 2017 On 9/21/2017 at 4:07 PM, Rick44 said: I believe Gun Hill receiving the XD60’s was indicative of the order switcharoo, since the reason they received them is because the Novas were delayed. I think it's more than that. They were losing buses to West Farms at a steady rate, and they were getting nothing in return. I think the XD60s were sent there to fill that gap. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted September 29, 2017 Share #1565 Posted September 29, 2017 11 minutes ago, Cait Sith said: I think it's more than that. They were losing buses to West Farms at a steady rate, and they were getting nothing in return. I think the XD60s were sent there to fill that gap. Can that be the same with Casey Stegal and Flatbush? Flatbush hasn't gotten buses in return from CS. 4 buses left FB for CS earlier this month. For Gun Hill: Will those XD60's return back to Manhattan once the nova deliveries commence? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted September 29, 2017 Share #1566 Posted September 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, Future ENY OP said: Can that be the same with Casey Stegal and Flatbush? Flatbush hasn't gotten buses in return from CS. 4 buses left FB for CS earlier this month. For Gun Hill: Will those XD60's return back to Manhattan once the nova deliveries commence? Flatbush doesn't need a lot of LFSAs to cover the B44 SBS, hence why they are able to let some go. They have 37 LFSAs and use about 20-25 during the rush hours. They have a decent spare factor. Gun Hill had to put 40fters on the artic routes to make up for their losses, big difference. As for those XD60s, we'll have to wait and see. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limitednyc Posted September 29, 2017 Share #1567 Posted September 29, 2017 8 minutes ago, Cait Sith said: Flatbush doesn't need a lot of LFSAs to cover the B44 SBS, hence why they are able to let some go. They have 37 LFSAs and use about 20-25 during the rush hours. They have a decent spare factor. Gun Hill had to put 40fters on the artic routes to make up for their losses, big difference. As for those XD60s, we'll have to wait and see. actually 28 i believe 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaTransitMan4608 Posted October 1, 2017 Share #1568 Posted October 1, 2017 On 9/29/2017 at 4:19 PM, Cait Sith said: Flatbush doesn't need a lot of LFSAs to cover the B44 SBS, hence why they are able to let some go. They have 37 LFSAs and use about 20-25 during the rush hours. They have a decent spare factor.Gun Hill had to put 40fters on the artic routes to make up for their losses, big difference. As for those XD60s, we'll have to wait and see. Facts. You should see what the Bx4/A looks like with an LFS. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted October 4, 2017 Share #1569 Posted October 4, 2017 On 9/29/2017 at 4:19 PM, Cait Sith said: Flatbush doesn't need a lot of LFSAs to cover the B44 SBS, hence why they are able to let some go. They have 37 LFSAs and use about 20-25 during the rush hours. They have a decent spare factor. Gun Hill had to put 40fters on the artic routes to make up for their losses, big difference. That and Gun Hill runs their buses into ground... The buses they have from 2010 look awful... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted October 4, 2017 Share #1570 Posted October 4, 2017 51 minutes ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said: That and Gun Hill runs their buses into ground... The buses they have from 2010 look awful... Those NG's they took from Fresh Pond and Grand Avenue all need to return back to Brooklyn. Those buses don't look well maintained and not even a coat of an repaint. Their LFSA's from 2010 is another story. If those went to Manhattan they would be best maintained. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted October 4, 2017 Share #1571 Posted October 4, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Future ENY OP said: Those NG's they took from Fresh Pond and Grand Avenue all need to return back to Brooklyn. Those buses don't look well maintained and not even a coat of an repaint. Their LFSA's from 2010 is another story. If those went to Manhattan they would be best maintained. I've been saying this for a while now. The board needs to vote on an overhaul of management and maintenance to ensure that each depot has the same standards, otherwise the same depots are in need of new buses because they don't maintain what they have. It's certainly not fair to the passengers either. because more breakdowns means poor service. Get those guys out and put in people that are going to work and keep the buses in a good state of repair. These all look like innocent moves on paper, but they impact service considerably when depots are constantly scrambling to fill voids. Sure it happens, but certain depots have it far too often and that needs to change. The riding public needs to keep pressing the on this issue. Edited October 4, 2017 by Via Garibaldi 8 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Express Bus Operator Posted October 4, 2017 Share #1572 Posted October 4, 2017 Y 1 hour ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said: I've been saying this for a while now. The board needs to vote on an overhaul of management and maintenance to ensure that each depot has the same standards, otherwise the same depots are in need of new buses because they don't maintain what they have. It's certainly not fair to the passengers either. because more breakdowns means poor service. Get those guys out and put in people that are going to work and keep the buses in a good state of repair. These all look like innocent moves on paper, but they impact service considerably when depots are constantly scrambling to fill voids. Sure it happens, but certain depots have it far too often and that needs to change. The riding public needs to keep pressing the on this issue. You're right bout that. Sometimes i get a bus and the steering wheel are not even straight to hold properly with two hands. I put a comment on the OVCR cards and still remain the same when I get the same bus again on a later day or time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted October 15, 2017 Share #1573 Posted October 15, 2017 (edited) 1019 is built at New Flyer's facility in Alabama (photo: Kristain Baty) IIRC this will be Gleason's test bus According to people in the comments, it'll be on the with appearances on the and . Edited October 15, 2017 by Around the Horn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielhg121 Posted October 15, 2017 Share #1574 Posted October 15, 2017 Nice XD60 with the rooftop changed tho LMAO 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted October 15, 2017 Share #1575 Posted October 15, 2017 44 minutes ago, danielhg121 said: Nice XD60 with the rooftop changed tho LMAO Yeah but remember the Xcelsiors have to change their rooftop depending on the kind of fuel they need and run. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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