ttcsubwayfan Posted September 23, 2013 Share #2601 Posted September 23, 2013 (edited) In a few years, no one will give a damn about the R188s, just the typical North American culture of going gooey over new, shiny things. Edited September 23, 2013 by ttcsubwayfan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40MntVrn Posted September 24, 2013 Share #2602 Posted September 24, 2013 In a few years, no one will give a damn about the R188s, just the typical North American culture of going gooey over new, shiny things. Wouldn't this be the appropriate place for such enthusiasm for anything transit related? Modernizing a line with technology other countries have been sporting for years is worthy of discussion and culture really has nothing to do with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted September 24, 2013 Share #2603 Posted September 24, 2013 Wouldn't this be the appropriate place for such enthusiasm for anything transit related? Modernizing a line with technology other countries have been sporting for years is worthy of discussion and culture really has nothing to do with it. Please reread my post - in a few years no one will care. I highly doubt many people as is care about the R160s - the only ones who talk about them anymore are those whiny riders and a few other customers that expect luxury for $2.50. And those that have chosen the cars as some of their favorites in the fleet, but that's more to do with opinion and less to do with foaming over shiny shiny. As for the comment about technology, you make it seem as though the has been technology obsolete before hand, and that the MTA should've upgraded so much sooner. What then would happen to the R62As? They're not old enough to be retired now, and certainly not before, Kawasaki being available to refurbish the R188s thus giving the displaced R62As work to do was a lucky set of circumstances - if the original manufacturer of the R142A had gone under then we might not have been having this discussion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted September 24, 2013 Share #2604 Posted September 24, 2013 Wouldn't this be the appropriate place for such enthusiasm for anything transit related? Modernizing a line with technology other countries have been sporting for years is worthy of discussion and culture really has nothing to do with it. Keep in mind that the MTA and its predecessor companies (most notably, the BMT) were at the forefront of transit technology for a while. Know what that got them? A couple of standalone BMT articulated units (which would've been interesting had the City continued development of those), a fire in the Grand Central Shuttle, and the problems with the R44s and R46s which were chock full of new technology. The R62s and R68s may have been bland, but hey, they worked. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40MntVrn Posted September 24, 2013 Share #2605 Posted September 24, 2013 I read your post clearly the first time, I'm just defending the art of discussion here, whether its overly zealous or if the topic would be as interesting in a few years. My apologies, my driving point wasn't the fact that we may have older equipment in places, I should have made that clearer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTA1992 Posted September 25, 2013 Share #2606 Posted September 25, 2013 Exactly. Who cares about a few years from now? What has that got to do with the excitement of today? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted September 25, 2013 Share #2607 Posted September 25, 2013 Wouldn't this be the appropriate place for such enthusiasm for anything transit related? Modernizing a line with technology other countries have been sporting for years is worthy of discussion and culture really has nothing to do with it. The point is, it is special now, but when there's nothing but the same thing running, the appeal will likely wear off. Same for the R62A on the 6 chasers. It's unique for now, but when they become the majority again, same applies for there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priincenene Posted September 25, 2013 Share #2608 Posted September 25, 2013 still no r188 on the line. Getting disappointed :/.......... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted September 25, 2013 Share #2609 Posted September 25, 2013 Good things come to those who wait. It will happen, it's just a matter of time, not if but when. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lance Posted September 25, 2013 Share #2610 Posted September 25, 2013 still no r188 on the line. Getting disappointed :/.......... They'll start showing up eventually. I strongly believe the first 188s will enter service before Halloween or Thanksgiving at the very latest. I could be wrong though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacAlert Posted September 25, 2013 Share #2611 Posted September 25, 2013 They're both at Corona yard. First time I saw both of them sitting outside. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowblock Posted September 26, 2013 Share #2612 Posted September 26, 2013 They're gonna start running just as soon as enough crews are qualified to the superintendents satisfaction. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted September 26, 2013 Share #2613 Posted September 26, 2013 (edited) They're gonna start running just as soon as enough crews are qualified to the superintendents satisfaction. Any timetable on how long that will take or how many crews are left? Edited September 26, 2013 by Around the Horn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted September 26, 2013 Share #2614 Posted September 26, 2013 Give it time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted September 27, 2013 Share #2615 Posted September 27, 2013 One set ran past my about 8 minutes ago, not in service. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted September 27, 2013 Share #2616 Posted September 27, 2013 One set ran past my about 8 minutes ago, not in service. In what direction at that time? Headed to or from Corona Yard? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOPRO Posted September 29, 2013 Share #2617 Posted September 29, 2013 207th yard has prioritized the pre-conversion truck work. 7296-7300 is there now. Possibly 7291-7295 as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted September 29, 2013 Share #2618 Posted September 29, 2013 So would it be crazy to assume another R62A set has been sent (or at least loaned) to the 6? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T J Trainman Posted September 29, 2013 Share #2619 Posted September 29, 2013 Sounds like that set is heading to Kawasaki. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrylbaniaga38 Posted September 29, 2013 Share #2620 Posted September 29, 2013 This probably has been mentioned before, but has Corona been installing full cabs on their R62As before they go back to the ? I'm a regular rider to Main St. and I've been seeing more and more full cabs on the ends lately. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScreechyFlange Posted September 29, 2013 Share #2621 Posted September 29, 2013 Hopefully they fix the bucking and replace those dimming yellow lights. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOPRO Posted September 29, 2013 Share #2622 Posted September 29, 2013 So would it be crazy to assume another R62A set has been sent (or at least loaned) to the 6? You're jumping the gun. Just because 207th is doing work doesn't mean the cars are going to Kawasaki immediately after. There are other car numbers waiting to go to Kawasaki and this project will continue in car number order from oldest to youngest. This probably has been mentioned before, but has Corona been installing full cabs on their R62As before they go back to the ? I'm a regular rider to Main St. and I've been seeing more and more full cabs on the ends lately. That work is actually being performed by 207th and Coney Island. Corona is a maintenance barn. Adding or removing full width cabs is not apart of maintenance. That's overhaul shop work. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted September 29, 2013 Share #2623 Posted September 29, 2013 Ah, okay. I still think about this all in Bus Division planning, you lose some part of the fleet and get it replaced from elsewhere. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOPRO Posted September 29, 2013 Share #2624 Posted September 29, 2013 That's understandable but it's not lost yet. The truck work being performed is typical. It's usually done anyway at some mileage marker car equipment determines and the unit is then transferred to the overhaul shop to have it done. When the work is finished these cars will come back to service until it's their turn to go to Kawasaki. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted September 29, 2013 Share #2625 Posted September 29, 2013 Right, I get you. DOB is definitely more rigid about keeping things even, I think...up at Manhattanville, when equipment is sent out to Zerega to be repaired or overhauled, there are always loaner buses from other depots or at the least put-ins during the rush hours. Sounds like that's not the case with subway fleet repair work. Of course, the spare factor is probably pretty different between the divisions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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