paulrivera Posted February 23, 2021 Share #33451 Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said: By doing that, you have alienated a core of the BxM18 ridership who currently uses the BxM18 along 5th and Madison, as well as the people south of 34th St in the Flatiron area, and the QM and BxM riders that transfer to the BxM18 A couple of the QM buses were going to go to Hudson Yards also with the Queens redesign, but that was going to be about a year after the BxM18 reroute. Knowing the MTA, by that point some of the BxM18 runs woulda been cut due to LoW RiDeRsHiP. Anyone transferring from the other BxM routes would have indeed been SOL, and the folks that used the express bus between Midtown and Downtown would have simply went to Uber (which means that NYCT/MTA gets $2.75 via a tax in a roundabout way instead of a direct $6.75 thru the farebox.) Edited February 23, 2021 by paulrivera 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted February 23, 2021 Share #33452 Posted February 23, 2021 17 minutes ago, paulrivera said: A couple of the QM buses were going to go to Hudson Yards also with the Queens redesign, but that was going to be about a year after the BxM18 reroute. Knowing the MTA, by that point some of the BxM18 runs woulda been cut due to LoW RiDeRsHiP. Anyone transferring from the other BxM routes would have indeed been SOL, and the folks that used the express bus between Midtown and Downtown would have simply went to Uber (which means that NYCT/MTA gets $2.75 via a tax in a roundabout way instead of a direct $6.75 thru the farebox.) The truth of the matter is, the BxM18 without traffic is very comparable to taking Metro-North. From my office in Midtown, I can be home in 35 minutes when things are moving. Compare that to Metro-North, which is $9.75 peak, plus the $2.75 for the shuttle bus and it's almost the same amount of time on the BxM18 (about 30-35 minutes) for almost half the cost, not to mention no need to transfer. Hudson Yards is a ghost town now, and I don't see it coming back after COVID either. The City is in deep for all of the tax breaks they gave the developers for that project and it has become even more of a money pit. The idea was that the City would provide tax breaks, and make back that money and then some with all of the tax revenue that would be generated. Even pre-COVID, it would've taken years for the City to get that money back, as the project is still not complete yet, which may require more funding to finish it. Now? Who knows... It is going to be a real challenge to deal with all of the vacant office space, and on the express bus side, the had planned on not just having service there via the redesign, but also adding Staten Island express bus service down the line. All of that will be up in the air until who knows when. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted February 23, 2021 Share #33453 Posted February 23, 2021 9 hours ago, jaf0519 said: https://www.amny.com/news/mta-expanding-bus-access-to-fema-vax-sites-from-nycha-and-community-centers/ MTA is apparently adding service to some routes and even creating new routes soon to help get people to COVID vaccine sites. Article mentions: Adding stops and service (Doesn’t say where) More service on the B49 to Medgar Evers A route between Hammels Houses and York College Will be online on trip planner by beginning of March In my honest opinion as a person who currently lives in Crown Heights currently, B49 service is very sporadic during the late night hours (since it ends at 2AM). Unless the route is going to be a short turn between Flatbush/Foster or Kings Highway- Ocean to Franklin during the late night hours. I cannot see them running the service end to end from Sheepshead Bay/Manhattan Beach to Crown Heights. This is going to be interesting starting 3/1. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted February 23, 2021 Share #33454 Posted February 23, 2021 @Via Garibaldi 8 @paulrivera That BxM18 Downtown transfer (to from the BxM & QM routes) is more of a hinderance than a help. Going Downtown, they pad the schedules ridiculously (and I've seen post in the Express Bus Advocacy Group from people complaining about being held there 20 minutes and getting fed up and taking the local bus or subway, which defeats the whole purpose of having the Downtown extension), and there are alternatives available (even express bus-wise, there's the SIM1C/33C and X27/28). It should just be pick-up-and-go. Whoever is at the stop when the bus arrives gets the BxM18, if not they can get one of the other express routes to go Downtown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAzumah Posted February 23, 2021 Share #33455 Posted February 23, 2021 The West Side Highway would be significantly faster in the morning, but the acceleration lane in Inwood is VERY SHORT. They would have to put in a longer acceleration lane at Dyckman Street to allow BxM18 buses to merge safely heading south. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted February 24, 2021 Share #33456 Posted February 24, 2021 2 hours ago, checkmatechamp13 said: @Via Garibaldi 8 @paulrivera That BxM18 Downtown transfer (to from the BxM & QM routes) is more of a hinderance than a help. Going Downtown, they pad the schedules ridiculously (and I've seen post in the Express Bus Advocacy Group from people complaining about being held there 20 minutes and getting fed up and taking the local bus or subway, which defeats the whole purpose of having the Downtown extension), and there are alternatives available (even express bus-wise, there's the SIM1C/33C and X27/28). It should just be pick-up-and-go. Whoever is at the stop when the bus arrives gets the BxM18, if not they can get one of the other express routes to go Downtown. Yeah, that's sometimes because of traffic, but other times, they transfer us to another BxM18 to continue south of 27th St, so it really depends, and I'm not sure when that started. Haven't been taking the BxM18 much at all in the morning, but it's been running pretty good. There are a few Bronx dispatchers in my group. I can't recall if they were when that incident happened, but Yonkers Depot is strict with the schedules, and they try to adhere to them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RestrictOnTheHanger Posted February 24, 2021 Share #33457 Posted February 24, 2021 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted February 24, 2021 Share #33458 Posted February 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, RestrictOnTheHanger said: I wonder how the travel structure is going to be for the B98V.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted February 24, 2021 Share #33459 Posted February 24, 2021 I'm actually surprised they can create routes like this in a few weeks now. Previously it took, what, a few months just to get an added trip on one route? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted February 24, 2021 Share #33460 Posted February 24, 2021 13 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: I'm actually surprised they can create routes like this in a few weeks now. Previously it took, what, a few months just to get an added trip on one route? Agreed, how come they can magically make this happen so quickly? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted February 24, 2021 Share #33461 Posted February 24, 2021 22 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: I'm actually surprised they can create routes like this in a few weeks now. Previously it took, what, a few months just to get an added trip on one route? For a lack of better term = Years... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R10 2952 Posted February 24, 2021 Share #33462 Posted February 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, QM1to6Ave said: Agreed, how come they can magically make this happen so quickly? Just goes to show, when they're pushed to get something done, they do it. Which means all their inertia over the years has been nothing more than flat-out stubbornness. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hounddriver Posted February 24, 2021 Share #33463 Posted February 24, 2021 9 minutes ago, R10 2952 said: Just goes to show, when they're pushed to get something done, they do it. Which means all their inertia over the years has been nothing more than flat-out stubbornness. Because Cuomo wants it done now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted February 24, 2021 Share #33464 Posted February 24, 2021 11 minutes ago, R10 2952 said: Just goes to show, when they're pushed to get something done, they do it. Which means all their inertia over the years has been nothing more than flat-out stubbornness. 34 minutes ago, QM1to6Ave said: Agreed, how come they can magically make this happen so quickly? I honestly feel like it's just people trying to keep the the way it was, where they didn't give a dam and did the absolute minimum in terms of service. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainmaster5 Posted February 24, 2021 Share #33465 Posted February 24, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Future ENY OP said: I wonder how the travel structure is going to be for the B98V.. Looks pretty simple to me. Linden Blvd westbound to Rogers Avenue. Right on Rogers to President or Eastern Parkway. Left turn to Bedford. Return trip is Bedford s/b to Linden Blvd. Left on Linden to the Pink Houses. Sounds okay to me. YMMV. Am I missing something ? Edit after seeing Kriston's post below mine I see that the proposal is more comprehensive than I envisioned with stops meandering throughout East New York and Brownsville incorporating parts of the Bi4, B15, and B60. More coverage = Better in my book. Now .........Carry on😊 Edited February 24, 2021 by Trainmaster5 additional thought 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriston Lewis Posted February 24, 2021 Share #33466 Posted February 24, 2021 The stop list for the Q98 and the B98 are at the end of this press release from the governor’s office. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainmaster5 Posted February 24, 2021 Share #33467 Posted February 24, 2021 4 hours ago, Lawrence St said: I'm actually surprised they can create routes like this in a few weeks now. Previously it took, what, a few months just to get an added trip on one route? Actually one can create a route, on paper, in 10 minutes if need be. It's the details like traffic patterns, infrastructure and ( projected) ridership that's the hang up. Then figure out the amount of equipment needed and who's going to provide that equipment. It's not rocket science. My opinion. Carry on. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrivera Posted February 25, 2021 Share #33468 Posted February 25, 2021 The dispatching at KB is something else... How does two straight full route Bx15 intervals get abandoned and you leave a one hour gap south of 149th? (0:32 and 0:50 from Fordham) On the bright side, at least the MTA is reporting specific ABD's for the overnight services now.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted February 25, 2021 Share #33469 Posted February 25, 2021 (edited) Apparently, SB B99 buses will now stop at 30th Street. Planned Work Posted: 02/25/2021 12:00 AMEffective Thursday, Feb 25, 2021 Southbound B99 buses will make an additional stop on 9th Ave at 30th St in the M11 stop 1 hour ago, paulrivera said: The dispatching at KB is something else... How does two straight full route Bx15 intervals get abandoned and you leave a one hour gap south of 149th? (0:32 and 0:50 from Fordham) On the bright side, at least the MTA is reporting specific ABD's for the overnight services now.. Yeah, it's good to know now. Take a look at this though: Delays Posted: 02/25/2021 01:00 AMThe eastbound BM2 trip scheduled to depart E 57th St/2nd Ave at 1:00AM will not run. We're running as much service as we can with the bus operators we h The eastbound BM2 trip scheduled to depart E 57th St/2nd Ave at 2:00AM will not run. We're running as much service as we can with the bus operators we have available. See when the next bus will arrive at your stop using: http://bt.mta.info/ Gotta wait til 3 AM to catch a bus out to Canarsie, yikes. Edited February 25, 2021 by BM5 via Woodhaven 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAzumah Posted February 25, 2021 Share #33470 Posted February 25, 2021 18 minutes ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said: Effective Thursday, Feb 25, 2021 Southbound B99 buses will make an additional stop on 9th Ave at 30th St in the M11 stop Post Office workers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted February 25, 2021 Share #33471 Posted February 25, 2021 7 hours ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said: Gotta wait til 3 AM to catch a bus out to Canarsie, yikes. Remember that the only reason the BM2 runs overnight is because the subway isn't open to the public. Since that window was shortened to 2am - 4am, they probably figure the only run that's actually needed is the 3am trip. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted February 25, 2021 Share #33472 Posted February 25, 2021 7 hours ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said: Apparently, SB B99 buses will now stop at 30th Street. Planned Work Posted: 02/25/2021 12:00 AMEffective Thursday, Feb 25, 2021 Southbound B99 buses will make an additional stop on 9th Ave at 30th St in the M11 stop Yeah, it's good to know now. Take a look at this though: Delays Posted: 02/25/2021 01:00 AMThe eastbound BM2 trip scheduled to depart E 57th St/2nd Ave at 1:00AM will not run. We're running as much service as we can with the bus operators we h The eastbound BM2 trip scheduled to depart E 57th St/2nd Ave at 2:00AM will not run. We're running as much service as we can with the bus operators we have available. See when the next bus will arrive at your stop using: http://bt.mta.info/ Gotta wait til 3 AM to catch a bus out to Canarsie, yikes. I see potential service cut for the BM2, thus forcing folks to take the B99 & the subway in the near future and now East New York and Brownsville will get extra bus service via the Vaccine shuttle. This could work during the late night hours. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted February 25, 2021 Share #33473 Posted February 25, 2021 My god, Kingsbridges old XD60 that are running on the B1 are in such awful shape, how are buses even allowed to get like this in the first place? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted February 25, 2021 Share #33474 Posted February 25, 2021 43 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: My god, Kingsbridges old XD60 that are running on the B1 are in such awful shape, how are buses even allowed to get like this in the first place? Hopefully Ulmer Park could do some big TLC on those.. Those artics are approaching 10 years old. You may say the same with the ones from Grand Avenue.. They all need a repaint at the least, and since the MTA is pretty poor right now don't expect any artic orders coming down the pike.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted February 25, 2021 Share #33475 Posted February 25, 2021 46 minutes ago, Future ENY OP said: Hopefully Ulmer Park could do some big TLC on those.. Those artics are approaching 10 years old. You may say the same with the ones from Grand Avenue.. They all need a repaint at the least, and since the MTA is pretty poor right now don't expect any artic orders coming down the pike.. It's Ulmer Park. Don't expect much more than what Kingsbridge offers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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