Bronx Redesign Draft Released

[4 via Mosholu]

Are the routes not being rerouted going to keep their 1984 digital signs?

I've seen that the 40/42 is keeping its stacked 1984 sign of Throgs Neck Ft Schuyler/Harding Avenue, but some of them might be getting the older Luminator signup like it was the early 90's (the 35/36 being two routes I've seen slated to get signed that way from when Staten Island went through a sign change of its own for its express routes towards Manhattan when they were revamped. For example: where it was once West Midtown Central Pk South via Church St via 6 Av on the X1, its just signed as West Midtown via Church St via 6 Av on the SIM1C).

[checkmatechamp13]

20 hours ago, 4 via Mosholu said:

Are the routes not being rerouted going to keep their 1984 digital signs?

I've seen that the 40/42 is keeping its stacked 1984 sign of Throgs Neck Ft Schuyler/Harding Avenue, but some of them might be getting the older Luminator signup like it was the early 90's (the 35/36 being two routes I've seen slated to get signed that way from when Staten Island went through a sign change of its own for its express routes towards Manhattan when they were revamped. For example: where it was once West Midtown Central Pk South via Church St via 6 Av on the X1, its just signed as West Midtown via Church St via 6 Av on the SIM1C).

IIRC offhand, any SIM route to Midtown, just has it as "Midtown" and doesn't differentiate between East and West.

[MysteriousBtrain]

20 hours ago, 4 via Mosholu said:

Are the routes not being rerouted going to keep their 1984 digital signs?

I've seen that the 40/42 is keeping its stacked 1984 sign of Throgs Neck Ft Schuyler/Harding Avenue, but some of them might be getting the older Luminator signup like it was the early 90's (the 35/36 being two routes I've seen slated to get signed that way from when Staten Island went through a sign change of its own for its express routes towards Manhattan when they were revamped. For example: where it was once West Midtown Central Pk South via Church St via 6 Av on the X1, its just signed as West Midtown via Church St via 6 Av on the SIM1C).

The Bx11/35 have the same signage towards George Washington, just added via 170 St/E 174 St and via 167-169 St respectively 

[7-express]

Video of the Bronx redesign is up:

 

[Q43LTD]

So, with the Bx30 being rerouted to Boston Rd south of Gun Hill, should the Bee Lines be closed door along that stretch now?

[Ken Bannister]

22 hours ago, Q43LTD said:

So, with the Bx30 being rerouted to Boston Rd south of Gun Hill, should the Bee Lines be closed door along that stretch now?

excuse my ignorance, but what you meant by Closed Door?

[danielhg121]

26 minutes ago, Ken Bannister said:

excuse my ignorance, but what you meant by Closed Door?

As with NICE bus which operates closed door on some routes in Queens to not be in direct competition with MTA, it means no dropping off in Bronx (only pick-ups) for Westchester-bound buses and Bronx-bound buses are drop-off only.

[Ken Bannister]

26 minutes ago, danielhg121 said:

As with NICE bus which operates closed door on some routes in Queens to not be in direct competition with MTA, it means no dropping off in Bronx (only pick-ups) for Westchester-bound buses and Bronx-bound buses are drop-off only.

ok, thanks for explaining. most people are Dropping Off on the BL along Boston Rd..

if they want to get on the bus to head towards Fordham Plaza, they can use the and transfer to the .

Edited June 25, 2022 by Ken Bannister

[GreatOne2k]

On 6/24/2022 at 8:05 AM, Q43LTD said:

So, with the Bx30 being rerouted to Boston Rd south of Gun Hill, should the Bee Lines be closed door along that stretch now?

The 60, 61, and 62 buses offer a one seat ride to Fordham Plaza (and officially free fare ride until September). Nothing should change as of now. The Bx30 transfer will not be directly at the Bx12, Bx12-SBS bus stop. Requiring those passengers to walk a bit. 

Edited June 25, 2022 by GreatOne2k

[B35 via Church]

On 6/24/2022 at 8:05 AM, Q43LTD said:

So, with the Bx30 being rerouted to Boston Rd south of Gun Hill, should the Bee Lines be closed door along that stretch now?

Bee line would be fools to alter how they operate in the Bronx, due to this impending altered network... It'll get its riders, but there's simply not enough juice (so to speak) in having this rendition of the Bx30 stop dead at Pelham Pkwy. ... The Co-op folks, for instance, aren't going to take the whole (new) Bx30 - when they can still get to the on the Bx28/38 at Gun Hill in almost, if not literally 1/2 the time....

[Kingsbridgeviewer382]

So Bustime is showcasing the updated routings of the altered Bronx routes. Here's the info that is showing on BusTime, but feel free to correct this post if you have the actual info on what the new display signages say:

Bx4A: W FRMS RD S BL via MTRPLTN via WSTCHSTR.

Bx11: Parkchester via 170 St, via E 174 St.

Bx15: Displays remain the same as they were on the weekday locals.

Bx18: "E 170 ST-Gr Con via HGHBRDG via MRRS HTS" for one loop. The reverse loop has "E 170 ST via Gr Con/MRRS HTS via HGHBRDG".

Bx25: Same as the Bx26, with the reverse trip having Bay Plaza listed instead of Earhart Lane.

Bx29: Uses the same Pelham Bay signage found on Bx5 & Bx12 displays.

Bx30: Pelham Pkwy via Boston Rd.

Bx35: W Farms RD-Jennings St via E 167-169 St.

Bx36: Added "via Tremont Av", but BusTime has the "GW Bridge" and "Pugsley Av" signage missing on its provided info.

Bx40: Added "via 180-Burnside" for eastbound buses, "via E TRMNT AV, via 180-BURN" for westbound buses.

Bx42: Added "via 180-BU, via E TRMNT" for eastbound buses, "via E Tremont Av, via 180-BU" for westbound buses.

M100: MANHTTNVILLE W 125 ST via BWAY, via AMSTRDM.

M125: BusTime has "Manhattanville-12 Av via 125 St" for Westbound buses. Eastbound buses have "The Hub-3 Av/149 St via 125 St".

Again, feel free to correct this post if you have the info on how the displays are shown in-person.

 

[Lex]

9 hours ago, B35 via Church said:

Bee line would be fools to alter how they operate in the Bronx, due to this impending altered network... It'll get its riders, but there's simply not enough juice (so to speak) in having this rendition of the Bx30 stop dead at Pelham Pkwy. ... The Co-op folks, for instance, aren't going to take the whole (new) Bx30 - when they can still get to the on the Bx28/38 at Gun Hill in almost, if not literally 1/2 the time....

There's a reason why the old Bx6 was combined with the old Bx7, after all. Perhaps this wouldn't be an issue if the MTA at least tried to run the damn thing to Fordham (hell, just touching Third Avenue would be a massive improvement on the old Bx7), but as it is, they're massively overserving Boston Road on weekdays.

[4 via Mosholu]

14 hours ago, Kingsbridgeviewer382 said:

Bx36: Added "via Tremont Av", but BusTime has the "GW Bridge" and "Pugsley Av" signage missing on its provided info.

Bx40: Added "via 180-Burnside" for eastbound buses, "via E TRMNT AV, via 180-BURN" for westbound buses.

Bx42: Added "via 180-BU, via E TRMNT" for eastbound buses, "via E Tremont Av, via 180-BU" for westbound buses.

They went all in for the 40/42, but kept the 36 simple like how it initially appeared when the revamp was in the early stages. They still have the 30 reading Co op city Earhart Lane, with the Boston addition.

In addition, they have the Queens half of the QBx1 (the 50) simply read Pelham Bay Sta LIMITED, almost like how the QBx1 read the same when it once ran as a loop. However, they might just write the Pelham Bay Park reading entirely given their plans for the 50 to go to Fiorello.

Before I forget, they restored the via Broadway via Amsterdam reading for the 100 to Manhattanville W 125 Street and they gave new interval numbers to the 18; they now have them in the 920's, the 950's and the 960's.

Edited June 26, 2022 by 4 via Mosholu
New interval #'s for 18 and restoration of reading for 100 now going to St Nick

[jolusoji]

Any thoughts on the first weekday service in the Bronx Routes?

[LegoBrickBreaker101]

On 6/26/2022 at 12:38 AM, Kingsbridgeviewer382 said:

So Bustime is showcasing the updated routings of the altered Bronx routes. Here's the info that is showing on BusTime, but feel free to correct this post if you have the actual info on what the new display signages say:

Bx4A: W FRMS RD S BL via MTRPLTN via WSTCHSTR.

Bx11: Parkchester via 170 St, via E 174 St. Some C40s read "via Claremont Parkway" instead of 170th

Bx15: Displays remain the same as they were on the weekday locals.

Bx18: "E 170 ST-Gr Con via HGHBRDG via MRRS HTS" for one loop. The reverse loop has "E 170 ST via Gr Con/MRRS HTS via HGHBRDG". Each of the loops has its own designation. The ones that go Highbridge then Morris Heights are the "Undercliff Loop", the others read "Sedgwick Loop" (which honestly should've been reflected on BusTime as well, as it's easier to distinguish than the mumbo jumbo that's currently on the site)

Bx25: Same as the Bx26, with the reverse trip having Bay Plaza listed instead of Earhart Lane. Side note, the Bx25 reads the full "via Allerton Av" as opposed to the Bx26's "via Allerton" on the Hanovers

Bx29: Uses the same Pelham Bay signage found on Bx5 & Bx12 displays.

Bx30: Pelham Pkwy via Boston Rd.

Bx35: W Farms RD-Jennings St via E 167-169 St.

Bx36: Added "via Tremont Av", but BusTime has the "GW Bridge" and "Pugsley Av" signage missing on its provided info. Yep, both "GW Bridge" and "Pugsley Av" were removed from the signage

Bx40: Added "via 180-Burnside" for eastbound buses, "via E TRMNT AV, via 180-BURN" for westbound buses.  See below

Bx42: Added "via 180-BU, via E TRMNT" for eastbound buses, "via E Tremont Av, via 180-BU" for westbound buses. Both the 40 and 42 read "via E Tremont Av / via 180-Burnside" westbound, and "via 180-Burnside / via E Tremont Av" eastbound

M100: MANHTTNVILLE W 125 ST via BWAY, via AMSTRDM. The full signage reads "Manhattanville" then "St Nicholas Ave / W 125 ST" then "via Broadway / via Amsterdam"

M125: BusTime has "Manhattanville-12 Av via 125 St" for Westbound buses. Eastbound buses have "The Hub-3 Av/149 St via 125 St".

Again, feel free to correct this post if you have the info on how the displays are shown in-person.

 

Updates in red.

[Calvin]

https://bronx.news12.com/city-island-residents-celebrate-24-7-bus-service?fbclid=IwAR258lP3M5leuC78IyD0VNxoGvVEEgpTnS6MUWMa46hdn2PQjog_c8mt1UQ

People in the City Island area are happy with overnight service there, the Bx29 route. Although, the wait is still at least 20 minutes per bus outside midnight and rush hours. 

Edited July 8, 2022 by Calvin

[Lawrence St]

Two questions: Why doesn't the BxM7B & Bx29 turn around at the southern tip of the island where the old dock was?

And with the BxM1, why not split the Inwood portion into it's own separate route out of Quill Depot?

[Via Garibaldi 8]

28 minutes ago, Lawrence St said:

Two questions: Why doesn't the BxM7B & Bx29 turn around at the southern tip of the island where the old dock was?

And with the BxM1, why not split the Inwood portion into it's own separate route out of Quill Depot?

What difference does it make? The last stop is City Island Avenue and Rochelle St for the BxM8 and Bx29 in City Island, so they usually just turn there or go down to the very end at Belden Point and turn around. The BxM1 via Inwood doesn't have enough ridership to warrant its own route.

[Gotham Bus Co.]

On 12/5/2022 at 12:03 PM, Lawrence St said:

Why doesn't the BxM7B & Bx29 turn around at the southern tip of the island where the old dock was?

Because City Island Avenue widens at Rochelle Street specifically for buses to turn around.

[Lawrence St]

So it's been almost a half-year or so that the Bronx redesign went into effect and still no update on the Bx6 SBS reroute into Soundview, what gives? OMNY is already available and the readers are located at all doors.

[Ken Bannister]

8 hours ago, Lawrence St said:

So it's been almost a half-year or so that the Bronx redesign went into effect and still no update on the Bx6 SBS reroute into Soundview, what gives? OMNY is already available and the readers are located at all doors.

from what i recall, they're waiting for OMNY to fully replace the MetroCard by 2024.. not sure why exactly.

[MysteriousBtrain]

11 hours ago, Lawrence St said:

So it's been almost a half-year or so that the Bronx redesign went into effect and still no update on the Bx6 SBS reroute into Soundview, what gives? OMNY is already available and the readers are located at all doors.

It was already mentioned SEVERAL TIMES that they are waiting for the MetroCard to be phased out 

[MysteriousBtrain]

2 hours ago, Ken Bannister said:

from what i recall, they're waiting for OMNY to fully replace the MetroCard by 2024.. not sure why exactly.

"Transition time". Since someone unfamiliar with the new OMNY system can potentially try tapping with a MetroCard by accident and god forbid they get stopped for fare evasion.

[BM5 via Woodhaven]

2 hours ago, Ken Bannister said:

from what i recall, they're waiting for OMNY to fully replace the MetroCard by 2024.. not sure why exactly.

 

6 minutes ago, MysteriousBtrain said:

"Transition time". Since someone unfamiliar with the new OMNY system can potentially try tapping with a MetroCard by accident and god forbid they get stopped for fare evasion.

Also, they don't want to spend money to add machines, only to have to take them out within a relatively short period. Considering that and the fact that those things can potentially eat your card and obliterate its use, I can understand that. 

Edited January 30, 2023 by BM5 via Woodhaven

[Lawrence St]

2 hours ago, MysteriousBtrain said:

It was already mentioned SEVERAL TIMES that they are waiting for the MetroCard to be phased out 

Actually, SEVERAL TIMES it was either when full door OMNY was in effect or when the card was phased out, or 2024… Excuse me for trying to get some clarification.