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13 minutes ago, DetSMART45 said:

With all of the tales that some of you could tell about your buses (roach infestations, customer destruction, busted seats), here's one to think about:

Friday night about 1:15 am, brand new bus picks me up 1 mile from south route terminal, on the 13-mile route journey. About 2 miles further, smell of diesel becomes stronger inside the bus. Only one other customer aboard, he gets off at mile 5. Operator shuts off the HVAC (Gillig sealed-windows "BRT" bus), so no air/heat circulation -- smell gets stronger. Bus operator stops at a light at midpoint of route and walks bus to check, says it's "hot diesel fumes", then said she noticed it starting about 1 hour before while halfway through her last run. Calls dispatch and tells them, I stood up by front door, and we got some sort of "fresh air" from her side window open as well as the nice breeze coming from under/sides of the front door. We get to the north terminal where I get off, tell her that they'll probably just tell her to do her last run and come back to the depot (since it's now 1:45, and she'd be back at the depot by 3:00) -- because it's that late.

Caught her doing her Saturday runs on another route, she said they actually brought out another bus and mechanic was sorta surprised until he walked to the back of the bus (really strong fumes there). Mechanic actually told her she should call off Saturday just because of the possibility of some sort of carbon monoxide poisoning.

Bus was under 2 weeks in service, and had relatively few revenue miles -- the majority of the vehicle's miles came from the cross-country trek from San Francisco to Detroit.

Next time, don't go for sealed windows, I guess...

That makes it sound like Gillig's just rushing the buses off the line, which certainly does no favors for any hopes of securing any MTA orders. (Yeah, it won't happen anyway, but yikes.)

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12 minutes ago, Around the Horn said:

MTA and DOT are testing a new real time E ink sign at Chambers St and Centre St on the M22.

The top half is a real time feed from BusTime and the bottom half alternates between a map of the route and real time alerts for that route.

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This here is good innovation. Hopefully, we could see more of this soon in other boroughs. 

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Is that test sign hard-wired (via underground or pole-drop electric) or solar-powered?

SMART has "real-time arrival" screens on their latest iteration of shelters along the FAST-corridors, which are run off the shelter's rooftop solar array/batteries. Problem is, the solar/battery runs the 4 USB chargepoints inside the shelter, the lighted stop location sign on the one side of the shelter (approximately 18"L x 5"H), two mini-strip dot-lights inside the shelter, as well as the arrival screen.

This setup is not working swimmingly. After dark, the screen frequently freezes between "refreshes" -- real-time could show 8:48 pm and then catch-up at 9:12, and run for a bit. Once the outside temps got into the 30s, the screens would completely freeze at say 10:08 when you walk up and check it at 12:15 am -- while still keeping the same brightness as in normal working mode. Other times, brightness would dim to either a barely-legible state or completely dark. Oddly enough, the inside mini lights would still be working and somewhat of a charge could be gotten through the USB.

This on top of the extra expense of installation (most locations had to have partial or full cement pads laid or extensions added to existing sidewalks/smaller walkways connecting a sidewalk to the curb), and each shelter requires a crew of six to install (versus two doing the regular glass-panel only ones).

We had our first significant snowfall on Monday and along the three FAST corridors, at least 3-4 inches fell. Although these shelters feature a roof with a sort of concave-design to them, I wonder if a road crew had to be sent out to "squeegee" them off so that the snowcover would not block the solar panels.

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2 hours ago, Lawrence St said:

Does anyone know why the M12 dosent operate in both directions along 12th Avenue?

Because 12th Avenue is the West Side Highway. Southbound is an entire park/greenway and there is no way they can make stops going southbound with how the lanes and sidewalks are set up.

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3 hours ago, Lawrence St said:

Does anyone know why the M12 dosent operate in both directions along 12th Avenue?

You already got your answer (basically for safety reasons; pedestrian & vehicular), but AFAIC the M12 has no business being a thing..... The idea of a West side route having to utilize 12th av like that, to me is proof that they got way too caught up in the unofficial quote-unquote name of the route.... There's been talks of a west side route, well before plans for the (modern day) Hudson Yards ever became known to the public.... The idea is to have Columbus Circle & 14th/8th subway stations as ridership generators to bring people to that edge of Manhattan, but clearly the M12 isn't actually utilized in that fashion.....

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5 hours ago, B35 via Church said:

The idea is to have Columbus Circle & 14th/8th subway stations as ridership generators to bring people to that edge of Manhattan, but clearly the M12 isn't actually utilized in that fashion.....

And it never will be with those horrendous frequencies.

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