B35 via Church Posted April 18, 2016 Share #226 Posted April 18, 2016 A lot of those vans are short turning at Flatlands. Most don't go to the mall anymore. I guess the 63rd pct has got the upper hand with the Utica portion to say the least. Lmao.. Soon after I edited my post, your post pops up confirming what I said... I rest my case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted April 18, 2016 Share #227 Posted April 18, 2016 Wait, they aren't legal? But I recall seeing a couple with DOT markings, unless I do not remember correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted April 18, 2016 Share #228 Posted April 18, 2016 Wait, they aren't legal? But I recall seeing a couple with DOT markings, unless I do not remember correctly. More of them are actually getting licensed and becoming legal... most of them still aren't though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted April 18, 2016 Share #229 Posted April 18, 2016 ....And that continues on with this route to this very day.... I think I said this before, the portion north of the gets too much service & the portion south of it is underserved..... So right now, the B47 runs every 8-10 minutes rush hours, and 12-15 minutes off-peak (for simplicity's sake). What would you say would be the ideal frequencies for each split? (Also, would the frequencies on the northern split approximate the frequencies of the old B40?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingjunior34 Posted April 18, 2016 Share #230 Posted April 18, 2016 Can't wait , where will it end dekalb or Williamsburg bride plaza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted April 18, 2016 Share #231 Posted April 18, 2016 Can't wait , where will it end dekalb or Williamsburg bride plaza All locals: full route All SBS: DeKalb to Kings Plaza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTA Bus Posted April 18, 2016 Share #232 Posted April 18, 2016 I really don't think the B46 SBS needs to go to the plaza, nor does the B47 either. It's easier to just let the local handle the load. That's going to just delay it more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted April 18, 2016 Share #233 Posted April 18, 2016 So right now, the B47 runs every 8-10 minutes rush hours, and 12-15 minutes off-peak (for simplicity's sake). What would you say would be the ideal frequencies for each split? (Also, would the frequencies on the northern split approximate the frequencies of the old B40?) If you want the real average time for the B47 is in excess of 20-30 mins. Simply this, too much bus bunching on the route. Most of the time buses don't come on schedule. I really think that line can't even keep a solid schedule and we are talking about extending it to WBP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted April 19, 2016 Share #234 Posted April 19, 2016 So right now, the B47 runs every 8-10 minutes rush hours, and 12-15 minutes off-peak (for simplicity's sake). What would you say would be the ideal frequencies for each split? (Also, would the frequencies on the northern split approximate the frequencies of the old B40?) Right now, the posted headways of the B47 are as such... Problem is, the actual waits for a bus during the rush is more like 12-15 mins. & off peak is like 15-30 (weekends, forget it).... This wouldn't be a problem if most the service was dedicated to the southern portion of the route (where the greater demand is, AINEC btw)..... Basically, what Future ENY Op said.... With that said, I'd say the freq's for the southern split should be the more or less the same as the posted frequency of the (real) 47 (well maybe a solid 8 mins during the peak, instead of 8-10)... Buses would be more timely with those freq. levels for a B78 revival than it is w/ the current B47, no question..... For the northern split, well, let me do the whole thing this way: For comparison purposes: - a southern B47 split: 8 mins AM/PM rush, 12 mins off peak (hawk trips kept) - a northern B47 split: 12 mins AM/PM rush, 15-20 mins off peak (hawk trips eliminated) - old B40: 15 mins peak, 15 middays, 30 mins late pm/early am (hawk trips ran every hour) - all, IINM... (which answers your last question there) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransitJusticeForAll Posted April 19, 2016 Share #235 Posted April 19, 2016 I went to the Flatbush Depot today and was unable to find the Xd40 +SBS Wrapped. Does anyone know the debut date and when the XD40 +SBS wrapped will be unveiled to the public? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdog14 Posted April 19, 2016 Share #236 Posted April 19, 2016 I went to the Flatbush Depot today and was unable to find the Xd40 +SBS Wrapped. Does anyone know the debut date and when the XD40 +SBS wrapped will be unveiled to the public? I have a feeling it may start sometime in June or so, but you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted April 19, 2016 Share #237 Posted April 19, 2016 Right now, the posted headways of the B47 are as such... Problem is, the actual waits for a bus during the rush is more like 12-15 mins. & off peak is like 15-30 (weekends, forget it).... This wouldn't be a problem if most the service was dedicated to the southern portion of the route (where the greater demand is, AINEC btw)..... Basically, what Future ENY Op said.... With that said, I'd say the freq's for the southern split should be the more or less the same as the posted frequency of the (real) 47 (well maybe a solid 8 mins during the peak, instead of 8-10)... Buses would be more timely with those freq. levels for a B78 revival than it is w/ the current B47, no question..... For the northern split, well, let me do the whole thing this way: For comparison purposes: - a southern B47 split: 8 mins AM/PM rush, 12 mins off peak (hawk trips kept) - a northern B47 split: 12 mins AM/PM rush, 15-20 mins off peak (hawk trips eliminated) - old B40: 15 mins peak, 15 middays, 30 mins late pm/early am (hawk trips ran every hour) - all, IINM... (which answers your last question there) I'm fine with the split of the B47, but I think the route north Rutland Rd should have late night service, and it could be done on hourly headways with one bus (the runtime would be approximately 23 minutes from WBP to Rutland Rd). Added cost would be about $1.5 million, but offset with lower frequencies in the daytime hours (There would still be net-savings even with added late night service). The B46 could be sent to Woodhull Hospital at all times of the day (possibly every other trip during the daytime hours). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted April 19, 2016 Share #238 Posted April 19, 2016 Right now, the posted headways of the B47 are as such... Problem is, the actual waits for a bus during the rush is more like 12-15 mins. & off peak is like 15-30 (weekends, forget it).... This wouldn't be a problem if most the service was dedicated to the southern portion of the route (where the greater demand is, AINEC btw)..... Basically, what Future ENY Op said.... With that said, I'd say the freq's for the southern split should be the more or less the same as the posted frequency of the (real) 47 (well maybe a solid 8 mins during the peak, instead of 8-10)... Buses would be more timely with those freq. levels for a B78 revival than it is w/ the current B47, no question..... For the northern split, well, let me do the whole thing this way: For comparison purposes: - a southern B47 split: 8 mins AM/PM rush, 12 mins off peak (hawk trips kept) - a northern B47 split: 12 mins AM/PM rush, 15-20 mins off peak (hawk trips eliminated) - old B40: 15 mins peak, 15 middays, 30 mins late pm/early am (hawk trips ran every hour) - all, IINM... (which answers your last question there) Prime example. Yesterday I observed 2 B47's coming down during the rush hour (PM) in both directions. Now riddle me this. If each bus is supposed to come within 8 mins. Why are two buses coming down. I get it with the first bus on schedule. However, it's the 2nd bus that's coming down late getting to respective destinations. Whether it is WoodHull or Kings Plaza. Solution here: You have to revive the B78 and the short turn. Modify the route to have the B78 go down Remsen to Winthrop to Rutland for faster service. Northern part of route. Rutland to WBP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted April 24, 2016 Share #239 Posted April 24, 2016 B46 SBS Machine installation. Southbound. Avenue H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubBus Posted April 24, 2016 Share #240 Posted April 24, 2016 I remember the B78. I think that I took that bus one or twice, just to busfan. The B46 was the bus for my family and I. I believe that there was no Sunday service at first, it was added later. It served it purpose.... I also remember when the "second" B47 started, and was operated out of Flatbush, there were short turns at Sutter-Rutland . I believed that when the route was transferred to Grand, the short turns continued. What happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted April 24, 2016 Share #241 Posted April 24, 2016 I remember the B78. I think that I took that bus one or twice, just to busfan. The B46 was the bus for my family and I. I believe that there was no Sunday service at first, it was added later. It served it purpose.... I also remember when the "second" B47 started, and was operated out of Flatbush, there were short turns at Sutter-Rutland . I believed that when the route was transferred to Grand, the short turns continued. What happened? Shirt turns got shutdown. Now it's full service to WoodHull. The service sucks and needs to be split and returned back to the B78 for the short turn and the B47 for WBP to Sutter Avenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubBus Posted April 24, 2016 Share #242 Posted April 24, 2016 I just looked at the schedule. There are buses that start at Sutter-Rutland heading towards Kings Plaza between 4-7AM on weekdays, but that's it. I also see that DOT reconfigured the Ralph Ave/E.98 Street area, making it easier to make a right turn from Ralph Ave to E.98 St. Traffic lights are also going up at that intersection... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted April 25, 2016 Share #243 Posted April 25, 2016 Shirt turns got shutdown. Now it's full service to WoodHull. The service sucks and needs to be split and returned back to the B78 for the short turn and the B47 for WBP to Sutter Avenue. Dosen't Flatbush do trippers that end at sutter? We are talking about the B47 right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted April 25, 2016 Share #244 Posted April 25, 2016 Dosen't Flatbush do trippers that end at sutter? We are talking about the B47 right? I'm not too sure about that 4AM tripper to Sutter Avenue being done by FB. Gotta look into that. I think that's all Grand Ave. B46 SBS+ installation. Empire Boulevard. North and Southbound. Got pictures. Just need to upload from the phone. How to upload picture correctly into post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubBus Posted April 26, 2016 Share #245 Posted April 26, 2016 So I came across this photo on Facebook... It begins... Photo credit: David C. How come this bus wasn't wrapped in the new scheme? I thought that all buses will in the new scheme.... Sent from my VS990 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted April 26, 2016 Share #246 Posted April 26, 2016 How come this bus wasn't wrapped in the new scheme? I thought that all buses will in the new scheme.... Sent from my VS990 using Tapatalk This is just temporary until the new artics come in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted April 26, 2016 Share #247 Posted April 26, 2016 This is just temporary until the new artics come in. So is the B46 planned to eventually use artics for SBS once the XD60's arrive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted April 26, 2016 Share #248 Posted April 26, 2016 So is the B46 planned to eventually use artics for SBS once the XD60's arrive?They might get the new LFSAs or hand-me-down LFSAs. I can kinda see the 1200s going to Brooklyn. Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegoBrickBreaker101 Posted April 27, 2016 Share #249 Posted April 27, 2016 So I came across this photo on Facebook... It begins... Photo credit: David C. Shit... That looks dope! When is the B46 SBS expected to start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransitJusticeForAll Posted April 27, 2016 Share #250 Posted April 27, 2016 Shit... That looks dope! When is the B46 SBS expected to start? Late Spring to Early Summer. Probably somewhere in June. They're installing SBS machines at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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